What Roles would you like for Samurai and Red Mage?

[OMEGA_HACK]

thank you for posting that article and shows how Samurai is most likely to be Dps due to fan feedback- feedback im trying to get for SAM and RD MGE so the devs can see it clearly.

Well its actually more split down the middle in terms of Samurai being a tank or a DPS from the fan community. I've seen quite a few people in the game as well as in the forums supporting it as a tank and quite a few supporting it as a DPS. However when it all boils down it will be put into a role that will help the Duty Finder the best; just watch, it's all about the balance and the wait times.

[AzraelX]

Well its actually more split down the middle in terms of Samurai being a tank or a DPS from the fan community. I've seen quite a few people in the game as well as in the forums supporting it as a tank and quite a few supporting it as a DPS. However when it all boils down it will be put into a role that will help the Duty Finder the best; just watch, it's all about the balance and the wait times.

I have this poll on reddit and it seems like majority - 58-60% want SAM as a DPS n RD as a melee/caster DPS

[Shippuu]

I have this poll on reddit and it seems like majority - 58-60% want SAM as a DPS n RD as a melee/caster DPS

Because the poll is pointless, it's always going to be skewed towards DPS because more players play DPS and naturally they want more jobs to be DPS jobs.

It says a lot more that there's only a 8-10% lead for them to be DPS over tanks when you look at the numbers of DPS players there are compared to tank players.


Also, people fail to realize that if we get Samurai as a DPS, it won't wear "medium" armor like dragoon. It'll be like this:
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And not this:
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And that's following what Yoshi-P imagines when he thinks of a samurai (the former).

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Just wondering, where did Yoshida say what he believes a Samurai should wear in FFXIV? Regardless of all that, you're bound to get lookalike sets of both of those armours at one point or another if SAM is introduced. Take NIN for example, their first AF armour is quite heavy and I'm assuming it's made for non-stealthy combat, while the AF2 looks much lighter. Do you honestly think the development team would restrict their designers to something like the first picture only? They'd have to get very creative for the sets not to get boring.

[Shippuu]

Just wondering, where did Yoshida say what he believes a Samurai should wear in FFXIV? Regardless of all that, you're bound to get lookalike sets of both of those armours at one point or another if SAM is introduced. Take NIN for example, their first AF armour is quite heavy and I'm assuming it's made for non-stealthy combat, while the AF2 looks much lighter. Do you honestly think the development team would restrict their designers to something like the first picture only? They'd have to get very creative for the sets not to get boring.

Pretty much the very first article where Yoshi-P mentions Samurai as a dps that everyone got the idea that Yoshi P claims it's only going to be a dps. In the interview, he states that in his mind, he pictures samurai as kinagashi wearing iaido users. And that that image lends itself to a DPS and not a tank (Which is right, a cloth wearing dextrous fighter fits FFXIV's definition of DPS more than a tank.) He specifically mentions them wearing kinagashi and using iaido.

僕の中の侍のイメージは、着流しに刀を下げ、居合の達人という感じです。

着流し = Kinagashi. 居合 = Iaido.

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Pretty much the very first article where Yoshi-P mentions Samurai as a dps that everyone got the idea that Yoshi P claims it's only going to be a dps. In the interview, he states that in his mind, he pictures samurai as kinagashi wearing iaido users. And that that image lends itself to a DPS and not a tank (Which is right, a cloth wearing dextrous fighter fits FFXIV's definition of DPS more than a tank.) He specifically mentions them wearing kinagashi and using iaido.



着流し = Kinagashi. 居合 = Iaido.

Ah, thanks for the source. Well it's an interesting take on the Samurai as opposed to what you might find in other media, although I still stand by the idea that they'll wear a variety of armour, including the usual heavy set.

[Shippuu]

Ah, thanks for the source. Well it's an interesting take on the Samurai as opposed to what you might find in other media, although I still stand by the idea that they'll wear a variety of armour, including the usual heavy set.

This is also why in a later english interview, when talking about samurai as a tank being called a Shogun. It's because Yoshi sees samurai as being the non-armored quick drawing variety, so an armored tanky type is something he'd call a Shogun instead. Still, if people are claiming "Yoshi said it's a dps" then it means it's that specific type of samurai, and while having some set that looks like samurai armor is plausible with Yoshi's idea of samurai, it's unlikely. They wouldn't be sharing an armor class with DRG, they'd likely be sharing the scouting set with Ninjas at that point.


If they are wearing their heavy armor, they should be a tank, hands down. There isn't any other popular FF archetype that people want that can fill an armored tank type. SE would be squandering their options on iconic and requested roles to fill easily into their standard of what a tank is in FFXIV.

[TruebladeNuke]

Because the poll is pointless, it's always going to be skewed towards DPS because more players play DPS and naturally they want more jobs to be DPS jobs.

It says a lot more that there's only a 8-10% lead for them to be DPS over tanks when you look at the numbers of DPS players there are compared to tank players.

Glad to know I'm not the only one thinking that way. Indeed, fan polls will always skew towards DPS because apparently Tank and Healer roles are boring because they focus on something OTHER than just "Kill everything."

Us Tanks and Healers need diversity among new jobs too.

[Intaki]

Tank and Healer roles are boring because they focus on something OTHER than just "Kill everything."

No, tank and healer roles are boring (to some) because they lack mechanical complexity. That's not to say the roles themselves are not complex, but their complexity relies much more upon the encounter and the player-to-player team interactions, rather than the intricate internal complexity inherent to the classes themselves.

[pouncing]

No, tank and healer roles are boring (to some) because they lack mechanical complexity. That's not to say the roles themselves are not complex, but their complexity relies much more upon the encounter and the player-to-player team interactions, rather than the intricate internal complexity inherent to the classes themselves.

/Begin Sarcasm

becaaaaauuuuusssssseeee its sooooooooo hard to follow a set rotation the keeps aaaaaalllll of my buffs up and deals maximum DPSSSS. OHHHHH NOOOOO i have to disengage what ever will i dooooooooooooooo!!!!!

- A guy who main'd MNK until 3.0.

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but on topic i would love to see another tank roll even though we just got DRK maybe something that attacks faster in a la MNK and NIN, but i might be a bit biased cause im a tank, but i love the speed of MNK/NIN. I think SAM could fit this bill, but then i might get shot by all the DPS who want a sword.