Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
...And me and numerous others think you have no idea what you're talking about.

This is like trying to debate with flat earthers or creationists: these are people who have already decided that they are 100% correct and no force on earth will convince them otherwise. Then, when people get angry and mock them, they draw the conclusion that, "Since they're mad at us, it must mean that out argument must hold merit!"

Listing all of the flaws in their arguments doesn't convince them, showing them math proving them wrong doesn't convince them...

It's literally at the point where there's no reason to even bother trying to engage these people. Why bother when you're in a situation where the person wholeheartedly believes that never admitting that they're wrong somehow means they're right?
On a side note, just as AST and WHM and SCH can stand together on their own merits, there's absolutely no reason why Creationism and Evolutionism/Expansionism can't also stand together on their own merits. Why does any of it have to be mutually exclusive? Both detail the origin of the universe, but from different angles.

Likewise, AST and WHM and SCH do the same primary job: They heal the party. They just all do it from different angles.