What makes WHM special? Nothing anymore.

[Momo-Quint]

Not true, i my self can tell WHM is by far the best Burst Healer in the game, in raids u will never see AST - SCH combo NEVER! at least in savage for now! WHM is by far the best on burst heals and a monster doing it! AST sure brings some utility but WHM is the boss on healing. And i have both jobs on 60. they can now compete with each other yes BUT WHM owns and will always OWN, in any final fantasy WHM is by far the best healing job on terms OF HEALING! no utility, just RAW healing ;3

[JudgeN]

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TL;DR : BURST HEALING BECOMES USELESS WITH OVERGEAR, GIVE WHITE MAGES LESS ACCURACY ISSUES YOSHIDA!!

This is an amazing post that everyone seems to overlook. I was talking to our FC white mage and this was the very point he brought up. The healing power that white mage has isn't necessary once a player familiarly with fights and gear increase. Then you can look at the utility the other jobs bring to the party and why they would be favored. I think that's what people mean when they say "white mage lack something special". Surely we can all agree that white mage need something to give us more party utility right?

White mage isn't a bad job but its always felt like it missing something and now its just more apparent.

Not true, i my self can tell WHM is by far the best Burst Healer in the game, in raids u will never see AST - SCH combo NEVER! at least in savage for now! WHM is by far the best on burst heals and a monster doing it! AST sure brings some utility but WHM is the boss on healing. And i have both jobs on 60. they can now compete with each other yes BUT WHM owns and will always OWN, in any final fantasy WHM is by far the best healing job on terms OF HEALING! no utility, just RAW healing ;3

One of our raid group is that and I have a feeling more will follow in the future. After the buffs the WHM switched to AST and the group is better for it due to the utility it brings.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

Not true, i my self can tell WHM is by far the best Burst Healer in the game, in raids u will never see AST - SCH combo NEVER! at least in savage for now! WHM is by far the best on burst heals and a monster doing it! AST sure brings some utility but WHM is the boss on healing. And i have both jobs on 60. they can now compete with each other yes BUT WHM owns and will always OWN, in any final fantasy WHM is by far the best healing job on terms OF HEALING! no utility, just RAW healing ;3

Eh, never is going too far. AST/SCH combo is viable for Savage now. That was the purpose of the buffs. I've already tried it myself on Tuesday.

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I was talking to our FC white mage and this was the very point he brought up. The healing power that white mage has isn't necessary once a player familiarly with fights and gear increase. Then you can look at the utility the other jobs bring to the party and why they would be favored. I think that's what people mean when they say "white mage lack something special". Surely we can all agree that white mage need something to give us more party utility right?

That's kinda the point though. WHMs strength and utility is that it will get you progressing through intensive phases. The raw HPS can heal through mistakes so you can get to the next phase of the fight and test out/practice mechanics. If you didn't have that power you'd most likely be hitting other walls rather than just pure DPS checks (damage walls?)

Sure, once the fight is on farm and people are geared there is less pressure on the WHM but there are other things a WHM could do to challenge himself/herself. This includes but is not limited to;

• Solo healing
• DPSing
• Relaxing after carrying everyone on your shoulders for progression
• Heal as usual because there will always be stupid mistakes

Personally I like taking WHM for progression because its reliable. Now that I have the option I'm most likely going to take AST to things for farm. AST cards aren't really reliable enough to consider them a proper utility. They could be useful for one encounter (a perfect balance+extend draw on hand split phase) and completely useles for another (4 spires in a row including shuffle)

[JudgeN]

That's kinda the point though. WHMs strength and utility is that it will get you progressing through intensive phases. The raw HPS can heal through mistakes so you can get to the next phase of the fight and test out/practice mechanics. If you didn't have that power you'd most likely be hitting other walls rather than just pure DPS checks (damage walls?)

Sure, once the fight is on farm and people are geared there is less pressure on the WHM but there are other things a WHM could do to challenge himself/herself. This includes but is not limited to;
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Understandable but there aren't any fights where its totally 100% necessary IMO, people are going to clear savage with a AST+SCH combo easy now that AST got brought up to par. So its kind of like meh whats the point, dunno its not very flashy and people love to see and feel their impact in a party.

[Rewind]

Understandable but there aren't any fights where its totally 100% necessary IMO, people are going to clear savage with a AST+SCH combo easy now that AST got brought up to par. So its kind of like meh whats the point, dunno its not very flashy and people love to see and feel their impact in a party.

And that's okay. AST isn't as easy to play, imo has a higher skill cap as there are more distractions and planning. It's much safer to go with WHM and the biggest impact is that..you clear it faster, cleaner and smoother.

It doesn't really take away WHMs identity though. Each class has their own pros and cons and skills and lack of skills.

[Menardy]

Please...just accept, that content can be done with every combination now. If you're a good player and you play whm and say "hey, i want to savage" then nobody is going to say "no, you're useless, we want an ast".
the same for asts if they say "hey, i want to savage" then nobody is going to force you to play whm instead for raiding.

Please, just accept that and be happy, thanks o3o!

[Kolsykol]

Please...just accept, that content can be done with every combination now. If you're a good player and you play whm and say "hey, i want to savage" then nobody is going to say "no, you're useless, we want an ast".
the same for asts if they say "hey, i want to savage" then nobody is going to force you to play whm instead for raiding.

Please, just accept that and be happy, thanks o3o!

Hulk angry! HULK SMASH!
Puny WHM useless! AST take mah place!!!
ME AST DRAW SPIRE FIVE TIMES IN ROW! SMASH!

[Aomine1992]

Please...just accept, that content can be done with every combination now. If you're a good player and you play whm and say "hey, i want to savage" then nobody is going to say "no, you're useless, we want an ast".
the same for asts if they say "hey, i want to savage" then nobody is going to force you to play whm instead for raiding.

Please, just accept that and be happy, thanks o3o!

I was just going to post something like this lol who cares who you bring the content still can be done with either combinations now....Gratz fellow AST on the buff and fellow WHMs keep playing the class cause it's still fun imo.

[Fevelle]

People trying to make WHMs feel bad for having an opinion on their own class. LOL
I still want changes to WHM, not buffs, I want new things, unique things. I would be happy with a Blind effect on Stone II already, so it doesn't become completely useless once you get Stone III. And/or change Enhanced Medica to a higher level trait that procs with Medica II and makes the next Medica have (2/3) or (1/2) MP cost...