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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    occasionally has to use threat combos. (Normally he doesnt, as his dmg is more than enough for any one else)
    Get out. You just proved my exact point
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    Get out. You just proved my exact point
    I wasnt trying to disprove your point lol.

    Just saying they can technically generate more threat than the other healers. Which if there is a strict enough DPS check (I'm not currently in any such content) where healers and tanks were maximizing their dmg, there might be issues. But this is just me speaking hypothetically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    But there is a clear difference in the amount of threat generated by ASTs he says, and occasionally has to use threat combos. (Normally he doesnt, as his dmg is more than enough for any one else)
    Thank you for being one of the very few that understands the purpose of this thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    With one of my LS tanks, they usually out DPS any DPS who comes
    Not wanting to be mean or anything, but these dps must be hella crap if a tank can out-dps them. Or they're all average bards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    (Get to a FATE like Gorgimera, and just throw up an AoE card buff to all 8 ppl, and you'll walk away with a gold, and max exp earned, despite doing nothing else.)
    That is actually because the whole group is working their ass off to get the gold. The individual participation needed to get a gold is actually super low compared to the group requirement, to the point where using a single cure is enough as a WHM in a party of 8 if they hard carry you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabtangs View Post
    Thank you for being one of the very few that understands the purpose of this thread!
    Well, if the tank manages to hold hate simply by "occasionally using threat combos" even w/o the bonus from the tanking stance, I don't think any change to ast is really necessary. I'd just call the higher enmity an ast quirk and call it a day.
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    Let the fairy heal more? Doesnt impact the SCH's dps..
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    One last post to try and get people off the track of giving me advice and telling me im bad.


    It was a issue pre buff. My PLD was using what he saw a friends PLD do in their a3s,with a whm.
    This included more sword oath for dps. We had to adjust after i pulled off him.

    Then we had to adjust even more post buff, wasting more unnecessary time we should be spending learning the fight.

    People seem to think healer aggro means so little, so why does WHM have a aggro dump? More importantly, what harm is there in giving AST one too? Especially when they currently are the highest hate builders of all the healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RylaiShendelzare View Post
    One last post to try and get people off the track of giving me advice and telling me im bad.
    Maybe if you responded maturely instead of screaming that you're not doing something wrong, people would be more inclined to listen.

    It was a issue pre buff. My PLD was using what he saw a friends PLD do in their a3s,with a whm..
    So you're saying you were having trouble with enmity while healing less than the other two healers? And you think it's a problem with the class and not with your group?

    You are in the minority of people who are having enmity issues with AST. That points to it being a problem with either you overhealing or the tank not holding enmity enough. There simply isn't another option, and I'm sorry you'd rather insult people than try to get better at the game.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by RylaiShendelzare View Post
    One last post to try and get people off the track of giving me advice and telling me im bad.


    It was a issue pre buff. My PLD was using what he saw a friends PLD do in their a3s,with a whm.
    This included more sword oath for dps. We had to adjust after i pulled off him.

    Then we had to adjust even more post buff, wasting more unnecessary time we should be spending learning the fight.

    People seem to think healer aggro means so little, so why does WHM have a aggro dump? More importantly, what harm is there in giving AST one too? Especially when they currently are the highest hate builders of all the healers.
    I'm sorry to see you're having issues, but there was never a hate issue with AST. I've had Tyla Esmeraude come AST before the buff and after the buff and not once did we have a problem with her taking hate or pulling an incredible amount of hate so there seems to be something wrong on your end or your main tank.
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    lol sounds like a crybaby!!!

    Waah Waah Waah, it isnt working for me so the class must be broken.

    In the words of Yoshi, get gud
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