What makes WHM special? Nothing anymore.

[Jabtangs]

Because I pay as much (really, even more because I have 8 retainers) as you to play this game. I don't really care how many jobs you have at 60, our opinions have the same weight when it comes to game design. If you're okay with seeing your class lose Proshell, Graniteskin and having the only thing that made it stand up taken away (raw-healing power), I am not.

Technically it doesnt weight the same if two people have difference in understanding of how the classes work. Having played jobs at 60 will clearly give you better understanding of how it works than reading it on paper or reading whiner posts on forums.

[Fevelle]

Technically it doesnt weight the same if two people have difference in understanding of how the classes work. Having played jobs at 60 will clearly give you better understanding of how it works than reading it on paper or reading whiner posts on forums.

As I said before, I'm not whining about AST. I'm whining about MY CLASS, that I play since 2.2. Since Heavensward launch, WHM lost a lot of things due to balance reasons and it eneded up being a generic healer. We don't have anything to offer the party that other classes can't offer too.

[AlphaSonic]

As I said before, I'm not whining about AST. I'm whining about MY CLASS, that I play since 2.2. Since Heavensward launch, WHM lost a lot of things due to balance reasons and it eneded up being a generic healer. We don't have anything to offer the party that other classes can't offer too.

Mind bonus? Best burst healing? You should feel threatened about SCH that got Indomitability and Emergency tactics.

[Fevelle]

Mind bonus? Best burst healing? You should feel threatened about SCH that got Indomitability and Emergency tactics.

Emergency Tactics isn't taking anything from me, it swaps shield for healing power, Indomitability also isn't taking anything from me as it uses Aetherflow and Scholar needed something more reliable than Succor. I do not feel threatened, I feel like my class is being forgotten and transformed into something that, like you said, only have a mind bonus to offer now.

[Muahbec]

Emergency Tactics isn't taking anything from me, it swaps shield for healing power, Indomitability also isn't taking anything from me as it uses Aetherflow and Scholar needed something more reliable than Succor. I do not feel threatened, I feel like my class is being forgotten and transformed into something that, like you said, only have a mind bonus to offer now.

SCH has infinite MP, better DPS (unafected by acc), many MANY tools compared to both WHM and AST
and you only complain about AST.
The only reliable thing AST has
Benefic 1 and 2 and aspected. (and some random procs)
Helios and aspected helios.
ED on a 40 second CD
Now they have Synastry with a longer CD and a Lower heal boost
CU still not that useful.
CO is a joke
Cards still are unreliable since all of them are completely random
WHM has:
Cure 1,2, freecure proc
Medica 1,2 20% chance Medica will cost HALF mp
Assize, PoM, Divine seal, Benediction, Regen, Tetragramaton.
SoS and assize for MP
Asylum which is "place and forget"
Cure 3
stoneskin 2
without mention the great amount of DPS a WHM can provide
SCH has
physic + free embrace (400pot + 300pot)
rouse which increases the fairy heals
Whispering Dawn (strongest AOE regen in game) and if you use Rouse (+40%) and Fey ill (+20%) well...
Fey covenant, fey illumination
selene- Fey wind, Fey caress (which in my opinion could be a WHM spell)
ET, Lustrate, infinite MP, indom, DT, Energy drain for EVEN MORE mp, sacred soil, E4E, supervirus, without mentioning the great DPS unafected by acc.
you SHOULD feel threatened by SCH and definitely not by AST.
Stop the drama.

[Fevelle]

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Again: my problem isn't and will never be a job having a "better and different something" than me. My problem is a job having what I have. I can't see where I said ANYTHING about being threatened by some class, I feel threatened by the lack of imagination from SQEX part. Instead of reworking the card system, reworking the playstyle and making the original class design work well, SQEX just changed potency and durations, basically. If I played AST, I would be as mad as I am now with my WHM because I'd never want to play a mimicked conjurer with restraints.

[Muahbec]

Again: my problem isn't and will never be a job having a "better and different something" than me. My problem is a job having what I have. I can't see where I said ANYTHING about being threatened by some class, I feel threatened by the lack of imagination from SQEX part. Instead of reworking the card system, reworking the playstyle and making the original class design work well, SQEX just changed potency and durations, basically. If I played AST, I would be as mad as I am now with my WHM because I'd never want to play a mimicked conjurer with restraints.

As i said it is not the same, WHM is way safer than AST in raids. The amount of CDs whm have is insane next to AST.
you're being too dramatic
sure AST could have been unique? SURE that would be awesome, but it isn't and it seems like it will never be, so stop whining about it.
That's why i love my server people play with the jobs that they love and have fun while playing it, and don't waste time discussing about this useless stuff