Overreaction to Astrologian buff.

[Noira]

Well gee IDK actually having played the class and doing content on it would give their opinion more weight no ?

So yeah completely different.

This is why it should be mandatory for healers to level all 3 to 60 <.<.

[Gist]

If ASTs replace anyone, it'll be WHM, SCH is in a really good place right now since they have as much DPS as their SMN counterparts without pets (hello same kit). I don't disagree that based on information that I've read around the forum that Dissipation seems like a really shit-tier skill that needs either significant buffs or a complete rework; however, just because SCH has only one defunct skill compared to AST's many defunct skills now being only one that's kinda bad (CO iirc), that's not a reason to damn a class back into the closet.

If I can grow up, perhaps you can too.

[Noira]

Dissipation IMO needs complete rework the idea is great in theory but bad in practice.

Also CO isn't bad just like not good either.

[ckc22]

Well gee IDK actually having played the class and doing content on it would give their opinion more weight no ?

So yeah completely different.

This is why it should be mandatory for healers to level all 3 to 60 <.<.

Half the skills are the exact same with mp/cast/potency differences. It's not that hard to figure out.

[Lastelli]

All we want is dissipation fixed, Emergency tactics being less useless and Embrace the same way it was , 300 potency like the tooltip says, is that much to ask? we dont ask for super shields op mana regeneration , more aggro control or what not like astrologians.

Throw in a free healer LB3 once a minute and you're good.

we dont ask for super shields op mana regeneration , more aggro control

You're already the best healer there, and you're also the best dps healer. What more do you want? Bosses killing themselves as soon as you enter the battlefield?
FYI I main SCH, I just want AST to be as good as the other healers because I love using all the healers and right now using AST is still the worst option...but thankfully it is not too bad anymore.

[ckc22]

Throw in a free healer LB3 once a minute and you're good.



You're already the best healer there, and you're also the best dps healer. What more do you want? Bosses killing themselves as soon as you enter the battlefield?
FYI I main SCH, I just want AST to be as good as the other healers because I love using all the healers and right now using AST is still the worst option...but thankfully it is not too bad anymore.

I want the class to be unique. I think the entire premise is flawed. No amount of buffs/nerfs of anyone else is going to change that.

This is all pointless because you think scholars are overpowered and want buffs, and a lot of people think you've been buffed plenty and still want buffs. We're not ever going to agree.

[Noira]

Astro is completely different than the other two, while still being similar enough to fit within Se's Mold.

IF you're playing Astro like Sch or Whm then that's where the complaints about bad astros come from.

[GideonHighmourn]

SCH is fine. WHM is fine. Just because AST's toys got better doesn't mean SCH/WHMs got worse. People are acting like children here and throwing temper tantrums over another class getting buffs; it's really sad. Be happy we now have three viable and competitive healing classes to play rather than just two. I'm excited to take AST further now that they've gotten adjustments and even more excited when I'm paired with one in DF.

[Cynfael]

Can someone please explain to me what exactly are these "Scholar issues" that keep coming up? I haven't seen anything concrete or definitive. Scholar is in a very potent place right now and it's going to take a lot to dislodge them. Outside of Dissipation changes, everything else in the toolkit has situational and tactical usefulness.

I'm with you there. I don't understand how anyone can claim that SCH is anything other than extremely powerful at the moment.

Sure, Dissipation is crap for healing and should be reworked either into the DPS skill people are actually using it for or into a proper emergency healing CD, but that's not causing real issues at the moment. The fairy thing I've already chimed in on; I think that the way they adjusted the scaling was a bit underhanded, but a stronger fairy at this point in the game would likely have been overpowered considering how strong and versatile the rest of the SCH's kit is now.

[SenzorialBoundries]

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So its ok for scholar to have terrible and useless skills that are just a waste of space on the bar while they should just keep giving astrologian more WHM/SCH rebranded abilities with different names and mana costs,interesing...interesting indeed.