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    SenzorialBoundries's Avatar
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    Polaris Sonata
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    My problems with AST buffs.

    You see its not the potencies that bother me, its the fact that they did not build arround what made the class unique , cards. They took the path of least ressistance and just buffed all potencies basically making AST a carbon copy of WHM/SCH. What is the point? It's not about replacing its about meaningful choices. Why play AST over WHM and vice versa when they both basically do the same exact thing. Its not a matter of meaning its just a preference.
    I don't want them to have the same generic healing potencies of the other classes, I like the idea of faster, weaker heals. I also don't want them to make Disable a rebranded Virus, or CU a rebranded sacred soil etc. I also don't want them to completely butcher the RNG. That's part of the appeal of the class. I'd rather them build around it and make the individual cards less useless.
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    Dante Venarra
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    Okay. Well this is a community and it extends well beyond your personal needs. People play the class for various reasons, value is entirely subjective opinion. And while I don't disagree they could have played on various ideas more to make them different the brutal honesty here is that the FFXIV community is INCAPABLE of understanding or relating to these concepts and would rather promote homogenization by excluding classes and then later complaining about homogenization. It is 100% the community's demand to either push AST out of groups, and push for this homogenization and they got it. The players of this game are simply not capable of accepting various differences outside of strict role sets and it shows to a great degree.
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Oh the drama.
    Seriously, play your SCH and be happy with it.
    AST is not even your main, why do you complain?
    Again, go play your job and be happy with it, leave AST and its players alone.
    AST wasn't working the way they were before so they got buffed, nothing more than that, stop crying no one's going to replace you.
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    Last edited by Muahbec; 08-27-2015 at 10:07 PM.

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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Its not a matter of meaning its just a preference.
    Just like it should be in a game like this. You choose the job you like most without having to worry about being underpowered with respect to other jobs of your same role and being left behind for harder content.
    As for the rest of your comment, you're just saying that you don't like AST concept. We've been knowing for months that AST was going to be a hybrid healer, why do you start complaining now?

    Why play AST over WHM and vice versa when they both basically do the same exact thing.
    Stil they have some differences. Why do I choose a specific melee when they all have their rotations that anyway are just about chaining skills? There are subtle differences that you will notice after you try using WHM or AST in harder content...but you can't do it, as your AST is lvl 45 and your WHM is lvl 50, right?
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    Last edited by Lastelli; 08-27-2015 at 01:02 AM.

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    All I see is a SCH who feels threatened that AST might replace them. Your previous posts say as much, at least.
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylentmana View Post
    All I see is a SCH who feels threatened that AST might replace them. Your previous posts say as much, at least.
    This is also what I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    This is also what I see.
    Cool but i got a static , only my clas individuality feels threatened and i played many many many mmorgps and class individuality is very important in an mmo, classes need to be different not rebranded and recycled skills.
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    Ferric Fireheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Cool but i got a static , only my clas individuality feels threatened and i played many many many mmorgps and class individuality is very important in an mmo, classes need to be different not rebranded and recycled skills.
    omg physick is just a rip off of cure, for the sake of class individuality i think sch should be forced to heal with adlo only ...

    see how stupid that sounds? every healer is gonna be more or less the same so get off your high horse go level your AST to 60 and then start making comments on it's performance
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Cool but i got a static , only my clas individuality feels threatened and i played many many many mmorgps and class individuality is very important in an mmo, classes need to be different not rebranded and recycled skills.
    I have news for you. There are only so many ways they can make them original, while still being useful.
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    Derek Skyshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Cool but i got a static , only my clas individuality feels threatened and i played many many many mmorgps and class individuality is very important in an mmo, classes need to be different not rebranded and recycled skills.
    There are three kinds of healing in MMO's. We are talking HEALING, because thats your job. Bubbles, Hots, and direct heals. We could also go as far as to say "stacked healing", but thats not really a thing in FFXIV.

    SCH and WHM bring...3/3 of those things. SE had no intentions of making AST when the game launched, and it's evident. WHM and SCH simply have "all" the tools. Any new class that is released, will inevitably feel like one or the other.
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