Overreaction to Astrologian buff.

[SenzorialBoundries]

Can someone please explain to me what exactly are these "Scholar issues" that keep coming up? I haven't seen anything concrete or definitive. Scholar is in a very potent place right now and it's going to take a lot to dislodge them. Outside of Dissipation changes, everything else in the toolkit has situational and tactical usefulness.

All we want is dissipation fixed, Emergency tactics being less useless and Embrace the same way it was , 300 potency like the tooltip says, is that much to ask? we dont ask for super shields op mana regeneration , more aggro control or what not like astrologians.

[Lastelli]

All we want is dissipation fixed, Emergency tactics being less useless and Embrace the same way it was , 300 potency like the tooltip says, is that much to ask? we dont ask for super shields op mana regeneration , more aggro control or what not like astrologians.

Throw in a free healer LB3 once a minute and you're good.

we dont ask for super shields op mana regeneration , more aggro control

You're already the best healer there, and you're also the best dps healer. What more do you want? Bosses killing themselves as soon as you enter the battlefield?
FYI I main SCH, I just want AST to be as good as the other healers because I love using all the healers and right now using AST is still the worst option...but thankfully it is not too bad anymore.

[ckc22]

Throw in a free healer LB3 once a minute and you're good.



You're already the best healer there, and you're also the best dps healer. What more do you want? Bosses killing themselves as soon as you enter the battlefield?
FYI I main SCH, I just want AST to be as good as the other healers because I love using all the healers and right now using AST is still the worst option...but thankfully it is not too bad anymore.

I want the class to be unique. I think the entire premise is flawed. No amount of buffs/nerfs of anyone else is going to change that.

This is all pointless because you think scholars are overpowered and want buffs, and a lot of people think you've been buffed plenty and still want buffs. We're not ever going to agree.

[Lastelli]

I want the class to be unique. I think the entire premise is flawed. No amount of buffs/nerfs of anyone else is going to change that.

Indeed, AST was designed as a hybrid healer, we know that already. It's not going to change, at least not until 4.0, so we can stop whining about that.
But again, it's funny that SCH/WHM in the forum didn't fell an urge to complain about homogeneity when AST was just the weaker version of what it is now and now that suddenly it's almost on par on the healing side (and still much weaker dps-wise) they get so defensive.

So its ok for scholar to have terrible and useless skills that are just a waste of space on the bar while they should just keep giving astrologian more WHM/SCH rebranded abilities with different names and mana costs,interesing...interesting indeed.

lol like all of AST skills are sooooooo useful. Celestial Opposition (lvl60 skill, just like dissipation) and Stella are indeed very useful. Seriously, level AST to 60. Then write down all of SCH and AST skills on a paper, dividing them by healing skills, dps skills and "other". Then you'll see why SCH is stronger.

[SenzorialBoundries]

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So its ok for scholar to have terrible and useless skills that are just a waste of space on the bar while they should just keep giving astrologian more WHM/SCH rebranded abilities with different names and mana costs,interesing...interesting indeed.

[Cynfael]

So its ok for scholar to have terrible and useless skills that are just a waste of space on the bar while they should just keep giving astrologian more WHM/SCH rebranded abilities with different names and mana costs,interesing...interesting indeed.

SCH has ONE bad skill: Dissipation. And it's mainly bad because it was branded as an emergency healing CD and isn't one; at best it's a DPS CD for weaving in additional Energy Drains.

[SenzorialBoundries]

SCH has ONE bad skill: Dissipation. And it's mainly bad because it was branded as an emergency healing CD and isn't one; at best it's a DPS CD for weaving in additional Energy Drains.

Implying ET is usefull , you are just gimping yourself using it , due to the risk of overhealing, and guess what , there is no difference between 1.1k shield and 1.1k extra heal its same effective HP , so why should you use ET in the first place since it adds nothing at all, criting adlo with ET is teribad, sure 12k crit ohoo big numbers but >50% of that is a huge overheal unless you use it on some1 who is dying but that happens only and only if you dont do your job.

[SuzakuCMX]

Implying ET is usefull , you are just gimping yourself using it , due to the risk of overhealing, and guess what , there is no difference between 1.1k shield and 1.1k extra heal its same effective HP

Use Emergency Tactics on Succor.

[Cynfael]

Implying ET is usefull , you are just gimping yourself using it , due to the risk of overhealing, and guess what , there is no difference between 1.1k shield and 1.1k extra heal its same effective HP , so why should you use ET in the first place since it adds nothing at all, criting adlo with ET is teribad, sure 12k crit ohoo big numbers but >50% of that is a huge overheal unless you use it on some1 who is dying but that happens only and only if you dont do your job.

You're forgetting that effective HPs aren't synonymous with actual HPs. There are situations where you need to restore HP between shielding. Hence ET+Succor. I didn't think that this required explanation.

[DawnSolaria]

All we want is dissipation fixed...

This is not too much to ask. Having a 60 scholar myself, I have never once used dissipation. ET had its use in 4 man group, but not so much when your partner isn't a schalor. Bug fixes and improvement are totally welcome to any class, but the fact was astrologian was under performing. It makes no sense to ask for last buff reverted just because scholar quirks aren't improved.