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  1. #1
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    Niroken's Avatar
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Quote Originally Posted by adn View Post
    2) I'm happy that AST threads will stop clogging up the entire freaking first page of the healer forums (hopefully)
    So much this.
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    So much this.
    That so many times over. I hated seeing every other thread being astrologian based.
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    Richard Butte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    That so many times over. I hated seeing every other thread being astrologian based.
    Now they'll just be threads filled with people whining about ASTs replacing them...

    And let me put it this way, before these buffs, you could micromanage the piss out of AST's abilities to get nowhere near the benefit of just playing a SCH/WHM normally.

    Now, you can micromanage and actually be effective as a healer.

    That said, AST still is lagging behind the other two, though by a far smaller margin than it was previously.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    That said, AST still is lagging behind the other two, though by a far smaller margin than it was previously.
    While it's still a little early, I agree with this so far. I feel that taking AST is making the gamble that your preferred cards for your group comp and strategy (mostly, but not limited to Balance and Arrow) will be available more or less when you can make the most of them. If RNG totally screws you, you would have been better off with SCH or WHM; if RNG is favorable, then perhaps the choice of AST will have been validated.

    Either way at least AST has an opportunity to shine. My napkin math is not strong, so I'm curious to see what sort of theorycraft and actual parses will crop up to evaluate AST's new potential.
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    That said, AST still is lagging behind the other two, though by a far smaller margin than it was previously.
    See give them one buff they'll ask for more. This is already the second round. Maybe next patch all cards will last for 1 minute and have double the effect because why not.

    This is why I have no interest in working with an Ast at all.
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    See give them one buff they'll ask for more. This is already the second round. Maybe next patch all cards will last for 1 minute and have double the effect because why not.

    This is why I have no interest in working with an Ast at all.
    Now you've become more annoying than Vlady was and that's saying a lot. >.>
    How old are you? I can't believe someone acting this immature about a job in the game lol. You don't even have AST leveled to 60! You don't know one thing about what people who played the job prebuffs had to deal with. You are so damn biased. Please stop being so childish, close-minded and ignorant about the job.

    Eh you know what, my point stands but I should learn by now it's useless to talk to this kind of people. *shrugs* I'll refrain myself from paying attention to further comments like this to avoid headaches all over again. :x
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    Last edited by Tyla_Esmeraude; 08-27-2015 at 04:21 AM.

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    Polaris Sonata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Now you've become more annoying than Vlady was and that's saying a lot. >.>
    How old are you? I can't believe someone acting this immature about a job in the game lol. You don't even have AST leveled to 60! You don't know one thing about what people who played the job prebuffs had to deal with. You are so damn biased. Please stop being so childish, close-minded and ignorant about the job.
    As biased as all the ppl who ask for even more astrologian buffs( had one astrologian in game who was very displeased that astros don't have virus and E4E), maybe if they fix scholar issues things will settle but hey they only need to tweak 2-3 skills not an entire kit and its still not happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Now you've become more annoying than Vlady was and that's saying a lot. >.>
    How old are you? I can't believe someone acting this immature about a job in the game lol. You don't even have AST leveled to 60! You don't know one thing about what people who played the job prebuffs had to deal with. You are so damn biased. Please stop being so childish, close-minded and ignorant about the job.
    I don't need to have Ast to 60. I never will because I'll never play it. You're any less biased or childish? Please. Were astrologians complaining before buff immature, childish, close-minded and ignorant? Most of those posts had the exact same flavor.
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    Richard Butte
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Were astrologians complaining before buff immature, childish, close-minded and ignorant? Most of those posts had the exact same flavor.
    No, most of them were very reasonable, very well-thought out posts about how they might fix AST without overpowering it. Many were from people who had Savage experience with both AST and at least one other healing class.

    And are you seriously whining about SCH...? I mean, really? I've dual mained SCH and AST with the same gear and SCH is definitely still better than AST. Even if AST healing potency was WAY better (which it ain't...), SCH still stomps it flat in mana recovery, emergency healing, AND DPS potency.

    Sorry, man, but actually get to 60 on AST, try the class against SCH with similar gear and then you'll have the right to actually call things one way or another...
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