Overreaction to Astrologian buff.

[Orihara_Izaya]

As a Scholar i'm not scared of people replacing me, I'm just happy my fellow co-healer has been brought up to snuff. That is all. I'm thankful for these buffs.

[Rawrz]

Just hoping to get Dissipation looked at and maybe Fey Wind while they are at it. Complaining about what was broken and what was useless paid off for AST. I DO NOT want Ast Nerfed. I just want skills that have Meh utility to get treated fairly.

Dissipation: Problem? Too much trade off for the burst heal. Living up to 30 seconds in "possible" agony so you have have 3 more aetherflow stacks, on top of wasting a swiftcast.
Solution: Reduce to the duration to 15 seconds OR lockout only the fairy that you sacked. If you killed Eos you could only resummon Selene for 30 seconds. This type of skill does not have to have the fairy lockout punishment. Look at how wonderfully Synastry works. You don't get penalized for suddenly being able to heal more.

Fey Wind: This skill does not affect HoTs or DoTs. It softens some rotations, but overall how does it increase DPS? How does it increase healing? 3% over the course of 30 seconds is not even a second gained with 0 spell speed. Meaning that the whole buff doesn't even increase the amount of skills you can use by 1. Even after the buff goes off a 2nd time it will STILL not give you an extra GCD. It takes 3 Fey winds (3 minutes of cds) to finally reach that extra skill.
Suggested Solution: Change it to crit! Change the 3% increase to spell speed to 3% crit. No other healer has a crit buff. Selene is not bringing the SCH his/her own version of Lightspeed or Presence of Mind. Everyone Especially the SCH (adlo + Pet crit passive) would "front-load" benefit from this Mini Battle Litany.

Also, I do really love the changes to AST. They are the rock of healing single target. I just don't want SCH skills to be overlooked for the sake of this newfound "Balance". (<-There is a pun there ;-; I'm sorry)

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I don't give two Fs out of a Moogle's bottom about any of this. Now that ASTs are buffed up, I want to see everyone bring their A game. I loved working with SCHs as my WHM so now I am more excited to work with ASTs in raids.

[Niroken]

2) I'm happy that AST threads will stop clogging up the entire freaking first page of the healer forums (hopefully)

So much this.

[echoica]

I don\\'t think the people complaining actually raid or realize the full potential of the other two healing jobs. I\\'ve been playing my astrologian all afternoon and the buffs are amazing. Do I feel they overpower white mage or scholar? They do not. They brought astrologian up to par to give them a viable spot in progression raiding.

Exactly this ^^

[FoxyAreku]

White mage and scholar will always be the more stable, "safe" composition. AST is risky and I think it will always be risky, but this is not a bad thing, as it can also have high reward with some RNG luck.

[Akyio]

AST is now the most powerful healer in terms of health healed per mp points, all of the heals are on par or 5% stronger.
SCH that think they are getting replaced forget that adloquim is not the only thing they have. Hell, nothing will change deployed adloquim anyway. And the lustrates, powerful mp management, better dps possibilities + fairy, the whole class is not just 1 skill.

If i think about possible SCH pain, i think it would be time for SE to adress dissipation and make some changes to it to make them happy.

[Liselsia]

I dont really get the whole concept of replacement. Its ok for a SCH to replace a AST but not visa versa ? At the top 1% of players, all that matters is being optimal. One healer is optimal, one isnt. Its fine for AST noct to be optimal over SCH, as its fine for SCH to be the most optimal in the meta. Players in the 1% dont play a single job. They play and learn jobs specifically to be optimal. And often will maintain several to be flexible in their static.


Discussion of balance should never be around optimal. Because that cant be balanced and majority of players arent at that level. What should be discussed is viability. Is both SCH and Noct AST Viable in savage ? Its really a yes or no. If both are viable, then there is no problem. AST should be allowed to be optimal if thats how it is. It fine for AST to replace SCH in the top 1% of players.

Of course that in itself is a fantasy. Anyone who remotely familiar with SCH and AST understands that SCH is still far more optimal at that level.

[Aeliott]

From what I gather of my friend who plays AST + WHM the difference in how difficult it was in savage was was like night and day (or should I say....Diurnal and Noc-...ahem). AST really did need this level of love. I'm confident ANY AST who's cleared savage floors with multiple healing jobs will tell you how much more unnecessarily stressful it was when on AST.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

Lol Ast will never replace Sch period! I'm glad Ast gets to play around with shields now and feel like they know what they are doing, but let's be honest Sch been getting nerfed constantly for awhile now and we still hold our spot in raid, no one can mitigate damage like we can there is no comparison, and don't even step on the stance dance floor with us I'm glad future and current Ast are happy but is this buff switch worthy from my Sch? NO so Ast heal better now great that means I don't have to jump out of CS as often emergency heal (another thing Sch does unmatched) To all Sch out there relax your spot is fine. To all Ast congrats on your new found usefulness!