Specialist Recipees: Why do the developers keep listening to bad requests?

[Joronas]

No. Selfish is saying that leveling 1 class should be better then leveling 8.

I'm the side that's actually bending, by saying that a specialist should be as good as an omnicrafter. Really, it shouldn't. It flies in the face of "reward for effort". The side saying that specialists should be better is the side that's being selfish, demanding and unyielding.

So yes, it's wrong. You do the work to level and unlock everything, you get full benefit from it. You don't do the work? You shouldn't get the benefit. Specialists being able to match someone who has leveled 8 classes is a GIFT. Stop being selfish and demanding bigger toys then the people who have spent time doing more work for them.

And yes, 2.x was good. Reward was coupled nicely with effort. Specialists could have fit nicely in that system. Adding specialist recipes does not. They just make the system weaker and poorer.

[RiceisNice]

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You're putting words in my mouth. I never said that these people would only level up one classes. Hell, you still need a good chunk of them at level 50 anyway for the cross classing skills. I'm arguing on the end of a single player getting access to all recipes, not so much in the efficency of how they can craft with specialist.

Gearing up in 2.0, especially at the late game, did not take work, you're grossly overexaggering the amount of effort needed to gear up an omnicrafter. it's called Artisan Gear. You were effectively doing the work of one gearing up one job to gear up for all 8. It was easier to gear and omnicrafting at that point was so easily accessible that it made crafting in general moot.

Hell, this is the case now. You can effectively omnicraft as of right now in fully melded white pieces, there's absolutely no reason to get the AF pieces other than for glamour and to prepare for future recipe implementations.

[Joronas]

Snugglebutt, desynth was likewise stupid. But it was also minor and WASN'T seen coming. This we can see coming, so stopping it is a priority.

Your idea for the best outcome is delusional at best. The best outcome is a vibrant and robust community that everyone feels welcome in, and contributes to. Your ideas go the exact opposite direction of that. It strips things from some of us in favor of people who didn't want to do the work for everything. Some of us want to welcome you to a community that lets everyone contribute. You just want to take away our ability to do things we enjoy so you can feel better about not having done the same work.

[Snugglebutt]

It strips things from some of us in favor of people who didn't want to do the work for everything.

It strips you of nothing, you cannot be stripped of something you never had aka recipes that have not yet been added and also not stripped of them even when are added as you 'can' obtain them if wanted just like to gain access to all desynth items from all classes you had to put in extra effort through creation of alts. You also keep going on about effort yet flat out refuse to put in the effort to obtain all the specialist recipes via those same alts, the problem is with you not willing to put in the effort to obtain everything you want despite it being possible for you to obtain them all if wanted it bad enough.

I'm a generalist programmer? I can do everything, and am harder to replace then the specialists. I watched people try. They might be able to do some tasks easier or faster; but I can do them as well.

You might think you can but you cannot, much like just because might have studied science in pre-school doesn't mean you can do quantum psychics. Just because you can draw a picture doesn't mean you can produce a 2D CAD design for the construction of a building or layout of a town. Just because you study programming and can make a 2D sprite move across a screen in visual basic does not mean you can produce a 3D polygonal character move in C++. A specialist not only does things faster and easier, but they can also do what someone who is not a specialist cannot. If you think otherwise I am sorry but you are incorrect and you would be seriously misunderstanding the concept and reality of what being a specialist actually means.

[Pooky_Pasha]

I'm the side that's actually bending, by saying that a specialist should be as good as an omnicrafter.

You are so merciful and generous. I, personally, cannot wait for specialists' recipes. Specializations should have been in from the very beginning, along with unique recipes for each one. You are not being locked out of any "content", you are just being a drama llama.