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    No, I'm giving a realistic assessment. If the recipe is unavailable, it's content I can't do.

    If, as SE said, specialists were there to make it so that new crafters can produce top-end material... then there's no problem with specialists. Giving them unique recipes, or otherwise making them BETTER then someone who's leveled everything, is the completely wrong way to go. It's favoring the people who don't, didn't, or have no interest in, working to level multiple classes over the people who actually do. What's next? Giving battle classes who use NO cross class skills advantages so that they're better then those who do?

    Specialists should NOT be better then omni-crafters, nor did SE ever SAY they would be better. All they said was they wanted to not force people into omni crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joronas View Post
    Giving them unique recipes, or otherwise making them BETTER then someone who's leveled everything, is the completely wrong way to go. It's favoring the people who don't, didn't, or have no interest in, working to level multiple classes over the people who actually do.
    So on the one side, you say they favor the people that didn't invest time to get all classes leveled up. But on the other hand, you don't want to spend time to change your specializations (in case they get included and you "have to" change in order to "craft everything").

    So basically, you just want to be on the status quo, be the best at crafting and not do anything for it anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joronas View Post
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    Specialists should NOT be better then omni-crafters, nor did SE ever SAY they would be better. All they said was they wanted to not force people into omni crafting.
    There's such a disconnect between what SE says and what SE actually does lately, I'd take it with grains of salt. They'd say <Class> is fine, and end up changing it the next patch. They say they don't want to force people into omni crafting, but the state of crafting encourages you to omnicraft more than before because of the heavy dependence of crafter-originated materials. At this point we don't even know what was the intention with the specialist system, all we know now is that as of this time, it's a complete fluke that does neither to boost individual performance or set it aside from omni crafters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joronas View Post
    No, I'm giving a realistic assessment. If the recipe is unavailable, it's content I can't do.
    It is not 'that you can't do', it's that you 'don't want to do'...there is a BIG difference between those two things.

    Someone else mentioned desynth as a very good comparison to the limitations of specialists in that both are limited to capping or specializing in three classes on a single character but like with desynth you have the option of having all capped or all recipes from specializations via alts. I'm betting you didn't kick up this much of a storm when desynth was implemented yet the same rule applies except only with specialists you can change your specialization if wanted.

    If SE do this right and do include unique specialist recipes like some of us want then as long as for the most part they limit most of those recipes (doesn't have to be all) to non-material/component items and instead stick to perhaps mostly housing items, equipment, vanity items etc for them then it will be the best outcome for the community and the game long term despite some omni-crafters objections in my opinion. Ideally specializations should of been in the game from the beginning but better late than never as far as I am concerned.

    You are free to disagree though, which I am sure you will.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 08-26-2015 at 02:34 AM.