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  1. #31
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Dude, sorry, are you drunk? Where the hell do you see 3.5k embraces lol. I am i193 and embrace heals 1.4k with raid buffs.
    The same XD
    Even with a critical embrace Eos nor Selene can achieve than right now.
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  2. #32
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gist View Post
    Perhaps you haven't seen 4 crits in a row in Faust. SCHs in PF around here reliably have better HPS than I do without cooldowns when gear should prove otherwise.
    So..uh...git gud?

    Also FYI, the actual cnj storyline is about you dealing with a girl who refuses to dps, and make her understand that she is retarded by doing so.

    Go figure.
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  3. #33
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gist View Post
    Perhaps you haven't seen 4 crits in a row in Faust. SCHs in PF around here reliably have better HPS than I do without cooldowns when gear should prove otherwise.
    WHM crits too and for far higher. Freecure proc then Cure II crit for zero MP? Yes please.
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  4. #34
    Player DawnSolaria's Avatar
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    Dawn Solaria
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Like how all the WHM are getting insecure just because AST is now on par baseline. WHM still has divine seal, tetra, and Assize, all amazing spells so stop crying and get over it.
    If you "lose interest" in your class just because another got buffed, you might as well level every class, since thats the only solution to deal with FOTM chaser.
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  5. #35
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnSolaria View Post
    Like how all the WHM are getting insecure just because AST is now on par baseline. WHM still has divine seal, tetra, and Assize, all amazing spells so stop crying and get over it.
    If you "lose interest" in your class just because another got buffed, you might as well level every class, since thats the only solution to deal with FOTM chaser.
    It's just this guy crying about it XD
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  6. #36
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    Sida's Avatar
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Go play AST. Or SCH. If you so think they are better. No one is stopping you. About doing damage as healer, in general the quicker the stuff dies, the less there are hurting your party. I'd call that pre-emptive healing ^^. But really, the strength and weaknesses of the classes ebb and flow, as has been seen time and again. It's nothing new and shouldn't come as a surprise or shock.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  7. #37
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    MrHappy actually posted a decent video about Healer DPS and how much you should be doing.

    https://youtu.be/_JkX-R19-NI
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  8. #38
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DawnSolaria View Post
    Like how all the WHM are getting insecure just because AST is now on par baseline. WHM still has divine seal, tetra, and Assize, all amazing spells so stop crying and get over it.
    If you "lose interest" in your class just because another got buffed, you might as well level every class, since thats the only solution to deal with FOTM chaser.
    It's one guy making this thread and pulling stats out of his ass.
    Let's not generalize all the WHM's which clearly disagree with him.
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  9. #39
    Player DawnSolaria's Avatar
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    Dawn Solaria
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    It's one guy making this thread and pulling stats out of his ass.
    Let's not generalize all the WHM's which clearly disagree with him.
    My mistake to generalize, just seem to me WHM is the one reacting most to AST changes based on observation on media sources XD
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  10. #40
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    Jerrard Coeurl
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Let me make my dissent clear, since I don't believe I've done a good job of it so far.

    It's not that WHM as a class is underpowered (Benediction, Asylum), but rather, less rewarding for the effort input than the other two healers, and I think that over time, this ... mechanical gap will only widen, due to this being the simplest healing class. In the broad aspect of things, most healers play white mage, and that's not deniable given the simplicity of the class. However, with recent changes, people are going to get more bang for their buck by playing AST (not only because it's shiny and new, but because it also has unique utility that WHM currently doesn't offer). The tools that WHM has to heal are dwarfed in comparison to the amount that both other classes have to keep their parties alive (2 kits rather than 1).
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    Last edited by Gist; 08-25-2015 at 09:05 PM. Reason: spelling

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