Why does White Mage feel so bland?

[Remilia_Nightfall]

3500 per embrace is pretty good (better than my cures at 3k as i191)

Dude, sorry, are you drunk? Where the hell do you see 3.5k embraces lol. I am i193 and embrace heals 1.4k with raid buffs.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

But that's not what the class is supposed to be (hello level 50 and 60 job quests)!

WHM can sustain a group (with difficulty), but not as efficiently as SCH, and has a lot less utility as a whole than AST, and all it has to offer in return is 600 DPS? (which is less than CS'd SCH since pets have their own stats and can heal just as well as a WHM [and better dots with actual debuffs])

With difficulty? What difficulty?

Based on your response on not DPSing I'm assuming you don't do Savage, and nothing else out right now is even remotely difficult to heal.

[MXMoondoggie]

SCHs have better DPS than WHM (750 with full dot ticks versus 600 with aero rotation).

Holy,Aero III,Holy,Assize,holy,holy. Holy also stuns everything around you.

If we are talking single target then you forgot to include Stone III in between Aero rotations.

[Isala]

But that's not what the class is supposed to be (hello level 50 and 60 job quests)!

Did you buy your account at 50? Because you must have, seeing as the 1-30 class quests are all about the fact that even though you're a healer, sometimes you have to kill things too.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

3500 per embrace is pretty good (better than my cures at 3k as i191)

Well now we know you're talking out of your ass.

It's like 1500 for Embrace. Not 3500.

[Gist]

Did you buy your account at 50? Because you must have, seeing as the 1-30 class quests are all about the fact that even though you're a healer, sometimes you have to kill things too.

Arbitrary damage to be able to level solo. That is not the purpose of having a green icon.

[UlricCraft]

I can reach 740 DPS on my WHM single target.

Dumb thread is dumb, don't feed the trolls.

[MXMoondoggie]

Arbitrary damage to be able to level solo. That is not the purpose of having a green icon.

[Gist]

Well now we know you're talking out of your ass.

It's like 1500 for Embrace. Not 3500.

Perhaps you haven't seen 4 crits in a row in Faust. SCHs in PF around here reliably have better HPS than I do without cooldowns when gear should prove otherwise.

[Selli]

WHM can sustain a group (with difficulty), but not as efficiently as SCH

Uh... WHM should have no problem keeping a group up by themselves (excluding certain parts of Savage content). In fact, most solo heals are done by WHMs.

all it has to offer in return is 600 DPS? (which is less than CS'd SCH since pets have their own stats and can heal just as well as a WHM [and better dots with actual debuffs])

WHM and SCH DPS is actually on par now. And those debuffs SCH/SMN DoTs effect very little in endgame content. Heavy doesn't effect large bosses and adds that can/should be heavy'd a WHM can also heavy. Most self-healing adds are in dungeons. Slow is very useful, but again, only really effects adds. 600 burst DPS on a WHM is actually really low, easily 750-900 at i190+.

And no. Eos and Selene do not heal as well as a WHM. Maybe if Eos has Rouse and Fey Covenant (is that even the right Eos buff? LOL) up, she might be doing about as much as a Cure I briefly. But in level 60 content, the fairies are about as strong as a Regen, which is what a SCH should be using them as for the most part.