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  1. #11
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    Aphel's Avatar
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    Reducing Purify cooldown made sure that SMN burst was more manageable and yet not impact its DPS in PvE settings. SMNs can still smash faces of course, like binding their targets and force a Purify, then smacking with their instant combos.

    Astros definitely needed buffs in PvE but that has brought some interesting changes to PvP. All I can say is, a Monk with 1-Ilm punch will make short work of Astros/Scholars. Or at least make their life a living hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphel View Post
    All I can say is, a Monk with 1-Ilm punch will make short work of Astros/Scholars. Or at least make their life a living hell.
    Unfortunately you'd be speaking from a lack of experience, monks dont put out enough cc to be anything more than an annoyance to healers in FL, one ilm punch's effectiveness is diminished alot when we can put out so many covering buffs in a short space of time
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeveArthu View Post
    Unfortunately you'd be speaking from a lack of experience, monks dont put out enough cc to be anything more than an annoyance to healers in FL, one ilm punch's effectiveness is diminished alot when we can put out so many covering buffs in a short space of time
    Yup, that's why we should ALWAYS have Protect & Stoneskin up... Preferably Succor too. That way it takes four one-ilm punches to affect a SCH aetherflow.

    Unfortunately people still insist Protect & Stoneskin are pointless in PvP so refuse to use it and/or wait for it to be applied.
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    You are right, I'm not experienced in level 60 Monk PvP. All my Seal Rock PvP experience is poured into MCH so I'm merely going by theory/skill description.

    Even with Somersault (6 seconds Perfect Balance) + Perfect Balance (10 seconds) = 16seconds of constant 1-Ilms, is that still not enough to cause trouble to the healers? Just curious.
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    Cero Skill
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    I like the purify reduction CD, But the Astro buff is too much... really too much, was already hard to kill them before and now it will be even worse,I think they are going to start eating more Lbs than any other healer from now >_>.

    Dont know why they change the High battle/fever tbh it is not an issue and never was but well, i just hope they dont do more stupid DMG nerfs or buff healers more, that would only make the RNG gets more importance in seal rock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gryzz View Post
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    That would only make Bards/casters never land a LB, and would be too BRoken.
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    Last edited by Cero0; 08-25-2015 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphel View Post
    You are right, I'm not experienced in level 60 Monk PvP. All my Seal Rock PvP experience is poured into MCH so I'm merely going by theory/skill description.

    Even with Somersault (6 seconds Perfect Balance) + Perfect Balance (10 seconds) = 16seconds of constant 1-Ilms, is that still not enough to cause trouble to the healers? Just curious.
    they can cast buffs at almost the same rate you can strip them off, plus you waste 2 ogcds for something they only need to use one ogcd for (if any at all)

    it would be useful when chasing someone who is alone, but then you arnt doing nearly as much damage
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    Having a monk in perfect balance blowing one ilm punch on a healer at this point is a technique only used when the healer has a couple other targets on them, otherwise you're using it in hopes that they will waste time reapplying buffs on themselves rather than healing. One ilm punch is truly for the summoners and the pesky alliance surfing tanks. Though a summoner with a bunch of covering buffs is an utter pain, that's where I have to blow stuns and perfect balance until I get the aetherflow and then I have nothing to kill with (that's when your heart sinks when you realize they stacked an aetherflow).

    Can't say I'm too hyped for the purify change but I will gladly accept it. As a monk, I'm a target for a lot of different dots and stuns, especially since I have no gap increasing abilities. I would have preferred smn's being unable to bane dots created by tri-disaster in pvp, it's a far more elegant solution imho. Should smn still prove to be too powerful, the devs will have to turn to potency tweaks while dots are still being flung around and cleansed everywhere.
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    So Astros are practically immortal now. More so than they were before.

    RIP PvP.

    Time to level Astro
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    Corvus Lament
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    AST is now the best healer for pvp, no question. Before they definitely were top tier, but now its undeniable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domira View Post
    AST is now the best healer for pvp, no question. Before they definitely were top tier, but now its undeniable.
    They were slightly behind vs a good amount of comps in wolves den, but now that amount of comps has been reduced to only control and chokers
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