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    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
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    Lets give AST the same amount of o-gcd of a Whitemage and let him whit the same potency of Healing and the support utility kit.
    Looks very Balanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashammel View Post
    Lets give AST the same amount of o-gcd of a Whitemage and let him whit the same potency of Healing and the support utility kit.
    I don't even know how you picked that up from my post. I never advocated for AST to receive all of 3 oGCD heals of WHM (of all the strengths of WHM to pick, you picked oGCD? Ok.)

    I'm speaking up against those who think that AST is now OP. It isn't. It still has its own magnitude of problems to deal with, as both healers do, but its now more viable and COMPETITIVE with WHM and SCH.

    What's so hard to understand about that?
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    So i wonder, with the Balance card + extended + TD + CO are we looking at 1min30 10% damage buff lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archvile78 View Post
    So i wonder, with the Balance card + extended + TD + CO are we looking at 1min30 10% damage buff lol?
    But... but... isn't that what AST needs to be considered on par with the other healer classes? :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    But... but... isn't that what AST needs to be considered on par with the other healer classes? :/
    I just think its pretty awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    But... but... isn't that what AST needs to be considered on par with the other healer classes? :/
    Well there really isn't a guage in this game for being on "par" since people will always attempt to find situations where they can solo-heal every fight to maximize DPS. (I guess you could say party damage potential is the real standard in FFXIV). Basically it just comes down to if A, B, and C can all solo-heal every fight, then the one with the most utility is the best healer since utility (buffs, mitigation, debuffs, etc) is the only difference between each healer currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    But... but... isn't that what AST needs to be considered on par with the other healer classes? :/
    it depends... AST can provide a RNG support. So you cannot count on it.
    SCH can Bio2, Miasma, Bio, Aero, Shadowflare, Energy Drain and Broil + a continous buff (Selene). But SCH can also provide continuous burst healing with Lustrate, Indomitability and Emergency Tactics and a bigger AOE mitigation with Deployment Tactics.
    But of course, AST have Celestial Opposition... :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archvile78 View Post
    So i wonder, with the Balance card + extended + TD + CO are we looking at 1min30 10% damage buff lol?
    30 secs x 2 from Extended + 15 seconds from Time Dilation + 5 from Celestial Opposition = 1 minute and 20 seconds of fun on the bun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    I don't even know how you picked that up from my post. I never advocated for AST to receive all of 3 oGCD heals of WHM (of all the strengths of WHM to pick, you picked oGCD? Ok.)

    I'm speaking up against those who think that AST is now OP. It isn't. It still has its own magnitude of problems to deal with, as both healers do, but its now more viable and COMPETITIVE with WHM and SCH.

    What's so hard to understand about that?
    Sorry i'ts almost 6.am here and i'm a bit sleep, and that part
    "As someone mentioned earlier, this is definitely a required balancing of AST. AST still needs to contend with less off-GCD heals, sub-par mana management, sub-par DPS, longer cooldowns on buffs and RNG cards."
    looked for me like "need to Balance this". And whit potency of healing increased to the same lvl of WHM and SCH i think changing some things, like the RNG cards, and or "sub-par DPS" will unbalance so much the game, AST it's not OP now, is a Healer whit a support kit. Also Sub par mana management was adressed whit increasing pontency since or healings skill cost less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashammel View Post
    Sorry i'ts almost 6.am here and i'm a bit sleep, and that part
    looked for me like "need to Balance this". And whit potency of healing increased to the same lvl of WHM and SCH i think changing some things, like the RNG cards, and or "sub-par DPS" will unbalance so much the game, AST it's not OP now, is a Healer whit a support kit. Also Sub par mana management was adressed whit increasing pontency since or healings skill cost less.
    Do people not get the fact that AST doesn't do as high of dps because it can boost the dps of the team I mean if AST had the DPS power of sch plus the party damage buffs that it can do there wouldn't be a reason to bring anything but AST.
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