New Heavensward Short Stories!

[Ayuhra]

Square Enix: Nope.

But....my hopes and dreams....

[treuhavik]

But....my hopes and dreams....

Crushed under the hooves of a non-existent Ixion.

[Anonymoose]

Crushed under the hooves of a non-existent Ixion.

Or maybe the hooves of an extant Ixion that is unrelated to Francel, eh? Eh!?

[PArcher]

Or maybe the hooves of an extant Ixion that is unrelated to Francel, eh? Eh!?

I'm still going with my theory that it will be the WoL who summons him

[Rocl]

Crushed under the hooves of a non-existent Ixion.

Is this before or after the lovemaking betwixt Francel and Haurchefant's ghost?

(WHY DOES NO ONE SUPPORT MY SOLUS X NAEL SLASH FIC)

[Ayuhra]

Is this before or after the lovemaking betwixt Francel and Haurchefant's ghost?

(WHY DOES NO ONE SUPPORT MY SOLUS X NAEL SLASH FIC)

That's not his ghost it's his body being possessed by an Ascian. You're welcome for that visual.

I'm still going with my theory that it will be the WoL who summons him

I would like this too but that's because I have an intense need to see the WoL do something because they ostensibly WANT to, not because events snowballed them into it. Giving the WoL motivation might be too much for a blank avatar though...

Also anyone tricking us into summoning our dead friend (lover?) into our life again would have to be SUPER CLEVER about it otherwise, after all we've seen and done re: Primals we'd have to be pretty darn stupid.

[PArcher]

Also anyone tricking us into summoning our dead friend (lover?) into our life again would have to be SUPER CLEVER about it otherwise, after all we've seen and done re: Primals we'd have to be pretty darn stupid.

I can see tricking being fairly easy, actually.

Lure us into a place full of aether, either tons of corrupted crystals or just flooded with raw aether in the air (like, after the defeat of a powerful aetheric creature...perhaps in Tharl Oom Khash...), and get us into an Echo or just thinking about a good time with Haurcherfaunt. Should be enough, considering how powerful we are, to get us to (accidentally) manifest a Primal version of him (this is basically how Phoenix was summoned, remember? Desire + Aether = Primal).

Now, that doesn't seem any better than before; you summoned a Primal, and now have to kill it, no big deal.

What if it was the Warrior of Darkness tricking you, trying to get you to summon a Primal to stack the odds against your favor? You summon, he takes control of the Primal, and you're now in big trouble...

But what if it doesn't go according to plan?

What if the Primal doesn't fall to his tricks, instead aiding you in defeating the WoD (for now)? What do you do, turn on it, or try to find a way to work with it...?

[treuhavik]

Or maybe the hooves of an extant Ixion that is unrelated to Francel, eh? Eh!?

Holy Hoof Kick, 'Nony, your window for pot stirring has already closed! Anyway, we both know that if Ixion is to appear, it will be summoned by Francel and that it'll be a Haurchefant-Horse centaur. Y'know, to keep those pony play jokes from Heavenstrum going.

Real talk, though, lightning and ice make little sense together, being polar opposites and all. It's far more likely that if Ixion/Dark Ixion appears, it'll be as a lightning-attributed Eikon.

Is this before or after the lovemaking betwixt Francel and Haurchefant's ghost?

Unfortunately, I feel pretty safe saying that this has already been written somewhere.


...No, I will not find it for you.

[Ayuhra]

Real talk, though, lightning and ice make little sense together, being polar opposites and all. It's far more likely that if Ixion/Dark Ixion appears, it'll be as a lightning-attributed Eikon.

The ice/lightning theory stems from the current trend in Heavensward Primals which seem to be combinations of past Primal elemental themes, in order.

Ravana, Lord of the Hive = Fire and Earth (Ifrit and Titan)
Bismarck, Lord of the Mist = Wind and Water (Garuda and Leviathan)

following this logic the next one would be Ice and Lightning (Shiva and Ramuh).

It would be interesting if we conjured Ixion or Francel did and Ixion helped us, still having Haurchefant within it somewhere. But that would go against what we know about Primals (that they are mockeries of whatever they were originally supposed to represent). Of course if Haurchefant's spirit really is always with us, as the Count said, and we looked back on him with fondness bordering on desire in some sort of aetheric hotzone (half the places in Azys Lla) or dragon-down crystal hotzone (Tharl Oom Khash) maybe he could come back that way and function differently. Or maybe having the soul of someone is the distinction between a Primal and an Eikon, I don't know. The only Eikons so far are Odin and the Warring Triad, right? Is Phoenix one also I haven't done that much of Coil yet (alas)

[treuhavik]

The ice/lightning theory stems from the current trend in Heavensward Primals which seem to be combinations of past Primal elemental themes, in order.

Ravana, Lord of the Hive = Fire and Earth (Ifrit and Titan)
Bismarck, Lord of the Mist = Wind and Water (Garuda and Leviathan)

following this logic the next one would be Ice and Lightning (Shiva and Ramuh).

This logic is flawed, though, unfortunately. Ice and lightning are polar opposites on the elemental cycle, whereas the other examples create/are created by/transistion into eachother. Ice and lightning plainly don't interact with eachother in any way.

EDIT: 'Cause relevant.

Well, the game specifically states that both Bismark and Ravana are of two elements. However, as it was pointed out earlier today, there is a connection to a third element.

The only clue I've picked up so far, seeing as Bismark precedes Ravana, is that they follow the elemental creation wheel;

Water + Wind = Bismark + Lightning, Fire + Earth = Ravana + Ice




Further significance of their bonus elements, though, remains illusive.

EDIT: Of course, the developers could have just picked two sets of elements at random, made the primals of them and then tacked the remaining elements on to use them all up, making way for the shift in focus toward Eikons.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3223579