Are we really getting a Dps parsing dummy?

[Twilite]

Dear Yoshida, I implore you, do not implement an official parser of any kind. This community will never be ready to handle that in a mature manner.

[Malevicton]

Dear Yoshida, I implore you, do not implement an official parser of any kind. This community will never be ready to handle that in a mature manner.

sure they can.

Oh it looks like we have different opinions about a subjective concept. Maybe we shouldn't try to form arguments based on those.

[Kallera]

sure they can.

Oh it looks like we have different opinions about a subjective concept. Maybe we shouldn't try to form arguments based on those.

I dunno, i'd rather not see parser results become the new thing to bar people. Its going to create a lot of broken parties, and not just on the hypothetical "190 dps in a1" person.

[Malevicton]

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Meh, people who really want to bar based on dps already can. They just can't tell you, so suddenly you're kicked with no idea what you did or how to prevent it from happening again. All this would do is make it more open. Something becoming more visible doesn't mean there's more of it. We already have lots of broken parties.

On the other side, I've seen "can anyone tell me what I parsed on that one?" more often than I've seen harassment over parses with things as they are now.

But really, I think people overestimate the "elitism" in ffxiv. If you're doing your basic rotation correctly, using cooldowns, and so on, then 99% of the population will have no issue whatsoever with you. Even if you're still learning but are at least attempting to pull your own weight, people won't mind. It's the people who make the conscious decision to just put their responsibilities (whether it's dps or mechanics) on other party members that draw ire with any consistency.

And that's all assuming that it would become the standard, which itself is still hypothetical.

[Gallus]

To be honest, I'm getting pretty bored lately. I'd welcome something like parsers or even leaderboards. In dungeons, it doesn't matter whether you kill packs in 30 seconds or in 3 minutes, it's like anything a good player can achieve in this game falls into the well of irrelevance.
I'm currently attempting savage with a static, A1S and A2S cleared, and the difficulty from A3S is more about arranging things to properly deal with mark swaps and intercepting tethers with server delay than anything else xD. It's not making the cut for me lately. I'm just mindlessly crafting food and amassing millions of gil, I mean, it's really the only half long term goal I can set, because there aren't any others.
You are good in PVP? Have fun seeing your actions triviallized by a million players (frontlines). No leaderboards, no ranked, no anything.
You are good at killing stuff fast in dungeons? Doesn't matter, it's not reflected anywhere.
You are good at...chocobo racing? Congrats Timmy, you are the winner! (nobody else even attempts chocobo racing).
You are good at...triple triad? Have fun win trading and beating AIs xD.
Would it hurt so much that good players in this game were...slightly rewarded for performing well at something? The entire game feels more about doing 5 year old grinds, getting a cool looking weapon and afking in ydilshire; some people might be pleased with that, I'm certainly not.

[ValkyrieL]

Party Finder
"Ravana EX clear party, link dummy parse SS"

[Malevicton]

Party Finder
"Ravana EX clear party, link dummy parse SS"

"Ravana EX clear party, no bonus, 2+ mistake = kick"

Yeah we're so far removed from that right now...

Edit: if anyone wants me to link dps ss for a pug, this is all they're getting http://imgur.com/gallery/W3Jxad3. If they don't take me it's their loss. Idk why people care so much if people who don't wanna play with them won't play with them.

[ValkyrieL]

I would really like a a dungeon completion time "Performance Review"....Parse

It will only appear after dungeon is completed.
should display data such as,
completion time, dps, death, overheal, party member item level/equipment ect.

[Kaurie]

"Ravana EX clear party, no bonus, 2+ mistake = kick"

Yeah we're so far removed from that right now...

Edit: if anyone wants me to link dps ss for a pug, this is all they're getting http://imgur.com/gallery/W3Jxad3. If they don't take me it's their loss. Idk why people care so much if people who don't wanna play with them won't play with them.

my bigger concern is that people will join those parties and lie about their DPS. I'd rather just have the information be available during the fight, so people can see what's up and why. You could then address the issue instead of just raging on each other and abandoning.

[Malevicton]

my bigger concern is that people will join those parties and lie about their DPS. I'd rather just have the information be available during the fight, so people can see what's up and why. You could then address the issue instead of just raging on each other and abandoning.

yeah that's pretty much what happens now. You pretty much just narrated like 95% of bismarc clear parties.

my favorite experience in Bis: I was in a group where me and a drg were over 800. Which isn't super awesome, but we were where we needed to be to clear the fight. Nin was at about 500. Brd was under 400. We couldn't clear. Nin raged at brd, quit group, saw him with his own pf within 5 minutes "low dps will be kicked, don't waste my time." We just replaced em both and 2 shot it :P