Did Yoshi P messed up the relics Im trying to understand the meaning of this help me!

[Naliee]

Assirra: Just because a huge amount of white knights roam this forum does that by default mean you guys are right? I can right now get 45 people from my server that feels exactly the same to reply if I really ask them nicely?

FFXIV ARR 4 million registered accounts.

I don't honestly think your 45 players will make a huge difference here.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

I'm here because I'm trying to get my message across and hopefully it will get filtered by the people who keep replying here thinking that this WoW FF Clone is the path to go on exactly everything ingame content. I don't think FFXI is some gold MMO and neither do I want a new FFXI but again for the thousand time leave one thing from FFXI influenced here enjoyable without a nerf its one lousy thing. FFXI was SE Flagship to MMORPG it wasnt WoW so when I read Ashkendor and Assirras replies I know they intentionally reply like that just to argue. Its one thing im asking for. Everything else in the game is a huge nerf you know it I know it its not even up for discussion. Why can't leave one thing alone thats already an influence from FFXI and just make it enjoyable timesinking gilsinking and rewarding so it can filter you out as someone who wants to dedicate this for an item.
Virtual item or not it could have a value to some people who enjoy that. Telling them to quit the game and constantly attacking them for wanting one thing horizontal in this vertical progression is not helping. Don't reply instead if you have no valid arguments.The point is regardless ofcoures its disrespectful towards everyone who devoted so much time and giving the handout making everyone half the same thing is not fair. If you want this easy mode on everything then the new relic chapters cant be the exact start of the relics in 2.0 where either. Meaning not a ridicilous low drop rate at first wich you will nerf nerf nerf and nerf thats why I view that again as disrespectful from Yoshi P and caters only to the lazy gamer without time and gil so they should get the same thing as you. If materia V will be added to the weapons its already a bunch of Bs already from the start then cause V materias will drop in price later I wouldnt be surprised that 3.2 quests later drop V materias making everyone who even bothered to get V the hard way once again get disrespected and punished while praising everyone else for just waiting out and they can catch up with the same person who loves this game and wants something to be rewarding grinding and enjoyable. AGAIN ITS ONE THING ONE THING IM ASKING but I wouldnt be surprised on the replies again.

Naliee; Incase you forgot without FFXI with double subscriptions and 1.0 players who still paid for this game when Yoshi P begged them too this game wouldnt even have 4m registered account so that reply is just corny. You think that everyone from 2.0 that started is what helped keep this game alive? we all know thats not the truth. I'm not even saying SE owes us anything for life and neither does Yoshi P but if you are asking for the support from players during a horrible time for your company the the least you can do is respect them back by hearing their wishes on 1 thing? Especially when they turned everything else into a WoW clone with a FF clothing. Its a business we get it money comes first and profit and for this game its to the expence of the games heart and punishing loyal gamers.
The tramp stamp from 1.0 and 1 dollar less on monthly payment isnt something i can jump for joy over. I know many people wants something to continue to evolve with the player gear wise. We know the FFXI relic was like that.

Say what you want about the first director Tanaka but he never wanted a WoW clone he wanted something unique and to keep players interested longer and make the game enjoyable and rewarding (this is an old gamereactor interview when the game just got released).

With that beeing said if he had more time it would have turned out differently. I rather would have played with 2m for 7-9 years than playing with a disloyal customermarket of MMORPG Trendjumpers of 4m that would pack their bags and leave when Blizzard releases a new expansion or a new company does that after 4-5 years. It will still add up money wise.

Many people in this forum agreed with me on this and if they are view this they will gladly reply and tell you the same thing.

[Naliee]

I'm here because I'm trying to get my message across and hopefully it will get filtered by the people who keep replying here thinking that this WoW FF Clone is the path to go on exactly everything ingame content. I don't think FFXI is some gold MMO and neither do I want a new FFXI but again for the thousand time leave one thing from FFXI influenced here enjoyable without a nerf its one lousy thing.. Its one thing im asking for. Everything else in the game is a huge nerf you know it I know it its not even up for discussion. Why can't leave one thing alone thats already an influence from FFXI and just make it enjoyable timesinking gilsinking and rewarding so it can filter you out as someone who wants to dedicate this for an item.

Well. I don't know how to break this to you but.. it seems like majority is casual players and casuals decide.

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Naliee; Incase you forgot without FFXI with double subscriptions and 1.0 players who still paid for this game when Yoshi P begged them too this game wouldnt even have 4m registered account so that reply is just corny. You think that everyone from 2.0 that started is what helped keep this game alive? we all know thats not the truth. I'm not even saying SE owes us anything for life and neither does Yoshi P but if you are asking for the support from players during a horrible time for your company the the least you can do is respect them back by hearing their wishes on 1 thing? Especially when they turned everything else into a WoW clone with a FF clothing. Its a business we get it money comes first and profit and for this game its to the expence of the games heart and punishing loyal gamers.
The tramp stamp from 1.0 and 1 dollar less on monthly payment isnt something i can jump for joy over. I know many people wants something to continue to evolve with the player gear wise. We know the FFXI relic was like that.

I know, I was there when FFXIV was first released but left because real life happened and came back to ARR. But all I was saying that you are drawing short stick when it's 4m against 45.

But like you said,

SE owes us anything for life and neither does Yoshi P but if you are asking for the support from players during a horrible time for your company the the least you can do is respect them back by hearing their wishes on 1 thing?

They certainly did listen to us when we asked for Zodiac nerf. I just find VERY UNLIKELY at this point that they will leave relic "untouched". You know, when they already said that they're giving us new one for HW.

[Hyrist]

Sizzle, you've been tooting the Anti-Nerf, let's be FFXI horn for a while now. Give it a break. The frequency in which you raise protest at this point raises questions as to the legitimacy of your investment.

[MageBlack]

Lol, I hope your hissy fits help your cause...

People are upset enough about having to do the MSQ from 2.0 to 2.55 just to get heavensward. OP, you really think there will be enough people willing to grind an unnerfed relic weapon from i55 all the way up to the new one and beyond? I dont care if its nerfed or not but what they have done is minimal in the long run. Did you also complain when they nerfed the Atma part by increasing the drop rate? It's not nerfing, its called balancing content to keep it at least somewhat relevant going forward. Also look at how long they went before they nerfed the 2.0 relic.

YOU ARE OVERREACTING and everyone here can see it.

Sorry, its hard to take anything you say seriously when it is so heavily laced with venom and venom is all you respond to...

[Velthice]

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You're delusional. You know what you get for playing 1.0? A tattoo, a chocobo, a goobbue if you did the quest, your name in the credits, and a reduced sub. That's what you get. That's ALL you get. You do not get to and will not ever be able to dictate the design and direction of the game. Get over it or cry more, I really don't care, but that's the reality.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

you mean a gobbue mount that pretty much looks the same as the one from the sylph quests except that mine has a carpet on its head? Thats what you consider unique and original? =) Really? Like really? None of anything you mentioned affects the unrewarding gameplay.

[Catsby]

I have to side with OP. This is my first (and probably last) theme park MMO. It's absolutely crushing to see higher skill/commitment rewards so easily replaced by fetch quests.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Catsby: Not only that but how everything constantly becomes so unrewarding and handouts to people who pay for a subscription. People are openly discussing this on my server atm. Not many are agreeing with the people typing here again they think their voices wont be heard due to how Yoshi P is taking this game.

[Andevom]

you mean a gobbue mount that pretty much looks the same as the one from the sylph quests except that mine has a carpet on its head? Thats what you consider unique and original? =) Really? Like really? None of anything you mentioned affects the unrewarding gameplay.

You completely missed the point of "You don't get a whole hell of a lot just because you played 1.0." and basically just agreed with it while still sounding like you were taking an opposing view. Good job.