Ninja: Heaven-Sword (And Beyond)

[MrCookTM]

Yeah it doesn't take into affect Battle Litany and Astro damage boost while TA is active so it actually is higher than that 1.67% figure, but it was just to illustrate how wrong the numbers were.

It's also worth noting that 1.67% would only be true if TA would buff the average dps of the party by 10% for 10 seconds every minute, which is not the case. It buffs everyones opener when all offensive CD's are up, and usually during the fight everyone will try to get the most out of it, be it the SMN using tridisaster + contagion under dwt to snapshot the buff. This makes it so that it's quite a bit more than 1,67%.

[AlphaDragoon]

What kind of dummy parses are folks hitting at i190 with the Eso weapons? I'm trying to improve my numbers and I want to get some comparisons. I'm currently hitting around 1200-1220 with no food/pots/party. I'm also wondering the best opener, given that I've heard it's bad to Suiton mid-opener now due to Armor Crush so I do it at the beginning. I saw the link in the opener to a visual guide via Google spreadsheets but it's kinda hard for me to read.

[Sigmakan]

Is it worth holding onto TA or Duality/DWaD so that they all line up? Or should they be used whenever ready.

Also, im surprised so many are using TA>SF. There was a lot of discussion in 2.0 that if you did a move too quickly after TA that the vuln up debuff wouldnt actually be active.

[MrCookTM]

Is it worth holding onto TA or Duality/DWaD so that they all line up? Or should they be used whenever ready.

Also, im surprised so many are using TA>SF. There was a lot of discussion in 2.0 that if you did a move too quickly after TA that the vuln up debuff wouldnt actually be active.

That's why I generally do TA > Kassatsu, because no matter what I do next, the debuff will be active. Regarding TA and the ogcd's, don't hold on to them. Some will line up naturally, others not so much, but holding them is a dps loss. Duality is a bit of an exception if you have no war though, because you wouldn't use it on DE but save it for the next AC/AE.

[Yunnae]

Hello everyone,

So i was wondering what dps are you doing on faust with the 200 weapons. I'm 190 ilvl and i'm doing 1150 ish on faust. I feel like I should do 1300 or something. I'm with a DRG / BLM / BRD. And i'm usually last or before the last. (it been only 2 weeks i'm playing ninja now).

Thanks for your input

[MrCookTM]

Hello everyone,

So i was wondering what dps are you doing on faust with the 200 weapons. I'm 190 ilvl and i'm doing 1150 ish on faust. I feel like I should do 1300 or something. I'm with a DRG / BLM / BRD. And i'm usually last or before the last. (it been only 2 weeks i'm playing ninja now).

Thanks for your input

With or without food/pot? Do you have a WAR in your party or do you have to keep up DE? What does your opener look like? For reference, I have the exact same gear except for the gloves (i190 gordian), and last raid I parsed 1270 on Faust with flint caviar and WAR in the party, didn't use a pot though.
I also wanna note that I have quite some mudra lag (sitting in the EU and on PS4, so no VPN), thus I'm using shuriken exclusively. With pot and better circumstances 1300+ should be easily obtainable.

Regarding being last in dps on Faust, is this total dps or incoming dps on Faust? Because if it's total dps, DRG and BRD numbers get inflated quite a bit (same with SMN and MNK) by aoe hitting adds. BLM and NIN should be pretty close with similar gear in my experience though with one or the other being slightly ahead depending on crit rng.

[2jays2day]

Hello everyone,

So i was wondering what dps are you doing on faust with the 200 weapons. I'm 190 ilvl and i'm doing 1150 ish on faust. I feel like I should do 1300 or something. I'm with a DRG / BLM / BRD. And i'm usually last or before the last. (it been only 2 weeks i'm playing ninja now).

Thanks for your input

Same set up. Pld and Drk tanks. Eating Baked Papira Pira or w/e it is and using xpots I pulled 1284. ilvl 191. I only use raiton in the opener due to bard buff the rest of the time it's Fuma. Standard opener of using suiton pre pull. TA > Kassatsu right before Shadowfang. Standard oGCD spamming from here on using duality with AE. Use trick attack again once off cooldown. I am nailing this rotation. Putting buffs up with 2 or less seconds left and refreshing huton with 5 or so seconds. I don't believe you can parse much higher than this at this ilvl without a warrior and machinist. If you're parsing 1150, you're doing fine.

[softestPAWSintheEAST]

new parse at i201. been consistently sitting around 1350 on the dummy after multiple parses. could easily reach 1400+ with warrior imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBY-8KNp13w

[silentwindfr]

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Q: Ninja has become a very busy job with the addition of directional-based actions. Do you plan to make any adjustments that make it a bit easier to play ninja?

A: As I just mentioned, we've only just started the 3.x patch series, and the level 60 cap will continue for a while. Back during 2.0, rotations weren't perfected as soon as players hit level 50, and the same holds true now. It will become easier as players continue researching and experimenting. Additionally, having played at the level 50 cap for so long, I understand the feeling of wanting to master the jobs and be able to play as you did at that time. However, we’d like to hear your feedback after playing a bit more, and trying out Alexander: Gordias (Savage).

One thing I would like to note, however, when playing on a gamepad the amount of cross hotbar space is lacking, and this is one aspect that makes it feel like you are busier. I’ve gotten word that Minagawa, our lead UI designer, is working on a new feature he refers to as a “double cross hotbar.”

Again, we'll be making fine adjustments to jobs overall in Patch 3.05, and after implementing Alexander: Gordias (Savage) we will continue to address job adjustments as necessary. As I said earlier, the level cap will remain at 60 for a while, so please keep providing us with feedback.

do i'm the only one feeling yoshida didn't answer the question? because soo far it's true that ninja is one of the most demanding jobs (if not the most). let's face it the cycle is not smooth and can receive some love in terms of cd that miss match, we can argue that the jobs deal decent damage, but let's be honest the dragoon and monk need less mental effort for maintain the same if not better dps.

what i read is don't try to be too fast at get better to play your jobs or think a new way to play that match the controler, when it was not the question asked. people did asked if they plan to make the jobs less demanding and more fun to play than being a chores.

[AniCelestine]

Am I blind or was there no mudra rotation section in the guide? I've been wondering if after the new skills my hatred for mudras would be gone and I'd enjoy ninja once again, if people could point me to the general direction of how mudra rotations work now so I'd be able to decide if I rather lvl up drg or nin next