is AST a better substitute for WHM or SCH?

[ErzaScarlet77]

if you HAVE to bring an AST to current raid, which one would you drop assuming equal ilvl/skill level?

[Tint]

the AST...? c.c,,

no, for real: WHM + AST is a much better combo than SCH + AST

[Alu79]

if you HAVE to bring an AST to current raid, which one would you drop assuming equal ilvl/skill level?

I would imagine that there is a bigger potential for high raid dps pairing Ast with Sch. If the Ast is good, he can carry bulk of healing and have SCH dps and go back to (emergency)healing and popping cds when things get away from the Ast before going back to dps.. If paired with a Whm then I would assume the Ast would take on the role of a Sch and DPS, but it isn't as efficient or even as high as a Sch so.. IMO Ast+Sch If you need dmg and Ast+Sch if you really need the heals for progression.

[Ghishlain]

SCH is really powerful ATM so I would recommend AST + SCH.

That being said, if true unadulterated raw heals is required, AST + WHM is the way to go for Medica II + Aspected Helios stacking for raid damage.

[Cynfael]

I'll go with AST/SCH as well. A Diurnal AST has sufficient power to fill the WHM's base healing duty, while the SCH has the bulk of the DPS and the emergency utility covered.

AST/WHM feels similar to WHM/WHM in that it's doable, but not the best synergy. AST doesn't bring much of anything that WHM can't do (let's not discuss the current somewhat sad state of the card system...), unless perhaps you go Noct and function basically as a fairy-less SCH without its wealth of emergency CDs. With AST/SCH, at least a Diurnal AST can provide the sort of easy, constant HoT application and on-demand Medica-style healing that a WHM would contribute to compliment the SCH's style.

[o3o]

You need the mind bonus whm gives. Since it boosts both healing and healer dps.

If you had to replace one it would be the sch. But your better off with whm+sch wombo combo any day.

[Eul]

I prefer WHM + AST than AST + SCH.

[Eudyptes]

But your better off with whm+sch wombo combo any day.

This is the 3rd or 4th time I've heard whm + sch as a "wombo combo". That's not what a wombo combo is lol. Not unless they are actually syncing up spells to perform some type of combo.

[Sebazy]

Whilst losing the mnd bonus is a bit of a hit, AST/SCH is still the more flexible and forgiving comp for savage imo. WHM and AST are too alike at this level and critically, both are hamstrung by MP. Switching out the WHM for a SCH opens up more DPS possibilities, brings a substantial amount of free healing along and offers more of a chance to recover from mistakes and deaths.

Alex Savage is more about sustaining moderate to high HPS over a long period rather than than the sheer burst that WHM excels at. AST/WHM just doesn't really bring any benefits along and certainly won't do your bard any favours.

As said, WHM/SCH is still the main combo to have and I can't see that changing unless AST gets a fair few more substantial tweaks.

[AlphaSonic]

This is the 3rd or 4th time I've heard whm + sch as a "wombo combo". That's not what a wombo combo is lol. Not unless they are actually syncing up spells to perform some type of combo.

WHM+SCH wombo combo?

Emergency tactics - Succor - Indomitability + Medica II - Assize.