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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    I am glad the threads are dying down and people are becoming more reasonable. I was getting tired of always having to counter so much mis-information and crap spewing.
    We don't need to be lectured about spreading misinformation from Mr. "I raise drgs dps by 400 as an ast".
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  2. #32
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    We don't need to be lectured about spreading misinformation from Mr. "I raise drgs dps by 400 as an ast".
    Seems like you do.why not try to do research instead of following the mantra of cards are weak and this job is crap because. Very simple to determine and that is by doing a few basic parses with any of the highest burst dps. But you probably prefer to just agree with someone else because it's more popular.
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  3. #33
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Seems like you do.why not try to do research instead of following the mantra of cards are weak and this job is crap because. Very simple to determine and that is by doing a few basic parses with any of the highest burst dps. But you probably prefer to just agree with someone else because it's more popular.
    Show us these amazing burst parses that make a statistically significant difference in encounter DPS beyond or even remotely close to what SCH and even WHM contribute over the course of a fight.

    If it's this simple to determine, then surely you can back up your claim.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Seems like you do.why not try to do research instead of following the mantra of cards are weak and this job is crap because. Very simple to determine and that is by doing a few basic parses with any of the highest burst dps. But you probably prefer to just agree with someone else because it's more popular.
    What makes you think I'm just assuming that? AST was my first 60. I have all three healing classes at 60. I have a tank/dps class at 60 (so I see other healers who aren't me in action). I'm not just making blind accusations here. Considering you have 1 class at 60, AST, and zero others even above 50, I think it's safe to say I have a lot more firsthand experience on how classes in this game work. As well as which ones work better, and work better with other classes.

    Tell me, what misinformation have I spread? Everything I've ever claimed as fact has been back up and supported by evidence in droves. Everything you've claimed has been pulled out of thin air and often times so ridiculous nobody with half a brain would believe you (like your claim you raised a drgs dps by 400, which I've already mentioned).
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  5. #35
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsurayu View Post
    That said, I could also see perhaps limiting the complete RNG nature of the card system, which leads to the only change in the system I would like to see - Shuffle. Shuffle should guarantee that you don't draw the same card twice. Still an RNG system, without the necessity of annoying you. I don't know about you guys, but the amount of time I shuffle a card and get the same card again, seems ridiculously high.
    Yes, it is ridiculously high. I wager I get the same discarded card approximately 60% of the time.
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  6. #36
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Seems like you do.why not try to do research instead of following the mantra of cards are weak and this job is crap because. Very simple to determine and that is by doing a few basic parses with any of the highest burst dps. But you probably prefer to just agree with someone else because it's more popular.
    Can we please just ignore this being? Like...for real
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    I am glad the threads are dying down and people are becoming more reasonable. I was getting tired of always having to counter so much mis-information and crap spewing.
    OK
    First: You were the one spreading mis-infirmation so....
    Second: The AST threads have reduced thanks to this >> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ents-about-AST
    Third: For the last freaking time, AST.IS.NOT.ON.PAR.WITH.ANYTHING.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    Can we please just ignore this being? Like...for real
    This whole section should do that or just stop replying.
    He lost all his credibility the moment he said to transfer to his server for proof.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    OK
    First: You were the one spreading mis-infirmation so....
    Second: The AST threads have reduced thanks to this >> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ents-about-AST
    Third: For the last freaking time, AST.IS.NOT.ON.PAR.WITH.ANYTHING.
    Astrologian is not meant to be on par with the other two. It is suppose to bring its own to the table via buffing other jobs. I would be interested to see different parses between what an astro brings with the card buffs+astro dps vs scholar solo dps. I believe that is the most fair comparison right now since a big focus is on how potent the scholar's dps is. And yes Astrologian can heal as well as the other two jobs minus the cooldown area which needs to be redone right I will vehemently beat that drum any day.
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  10. #40
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Astrologian is not meant to be on par with the other two. It is suppose to bring its own to the table via buffing other jobs. I would be interested to see different parses between what an astro brings with the card buffs+astro dps vs scholar solo dps. I believe that is the most fair comparison right now since a big focus is on how potent the scholar's dps is. And yes Astrologian can heal as well as the other two jobs minus the cooldown area which needs to be redone right I will vehemently beat that drum any day.
    What the hell?
    YOU were the one who kept saying
    "AST is on par with whm and sch"
    "They don't need buffs because ast is on par with whm and sch"
    And now you say it is not meant to be on par?
    More Vlady nonsense.
    Honestly, from now on i'll officially stop replying to all of your nonsense.
    Grow up.
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    Last edited by Muahbec; 08-20-2015 at 01:52 PM.

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