Only 2 dungeons per now vs 3....terrible idea

[Amiantos]

There's a difference between content everyone can access, and only a certain amount of people can access that's not due to the fault of the player, but "server limitations" that they'll never fix.

This is just the first of a series of different types of content. FC Ship quests are just the first of the new types that will be in 3.1 and in 3.2 they will add something different.

[SDaemon]

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There is nothing alarming about them dropping 1 dungeon out of the 3 per patch in order for them to give us more variety in content.

Crafting and gathering were continually added on in patches throughout the 2.0 era. FC didn't get absolutely nothing, housing (et al) and company actions and other minor additions were added to FCs during 2.0's lifetime. PVP again received additions and minor changes throughout 2.0. Gold Saucer was dropped in 2.51, what exactly were you expecting to be added in such a short amount of time since then? They have already announced additions to the place to come in 3.1+.

After a patch or 2 of them using these diverted resources to add this content we can determine whether it was worth a dungeon per patch or not, but for now I'm all for it.

[Colorful]

This is just the first of a series of different types of content. FC Ship quests are just the first of the new types that will be in 3.1 and in 3.2 they will add something different.

So less content for a 3-4 month patch cycle for players that don't belong in an FC that owns a ship? Yeah, that sounds like a good idea to me. I'll wait until I see how it plays out before thinking about making too big of a deal with it, but the white knighting of SE really needs to stop. This is not directed at you Amiantos, but when people express their dislike for things in the game, you don't jump in and call them whiny unless their post sounds like "I want savage to be nerfed so I can one shot it, and now!". It's like people can't handle their favourite game being criticized.

[SDaemon]

but the white knighting of SE really needs to stop.

What really needs to stop is the labeling of anyone who isn't raising a pitchfork against the game and SE as a white knight. -____-

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

What really needs to stop is the labeling of anyone who isn't raising a pitchfork against the game and SE as a white knight. -____-

Sorry, but in this forum, there is people who would be happy to see SE personally torture and kill their family and friends in front of them to just defend them on the court.

[Colorful]

What really needs to stop is the labeling of anyone who isn't raising a pitchfork against the game and SE as a white knight. -____-

There's a fine line between not "raising a pitchfork against SE" and calling anybody who dislikes any aspect of the game, or the direction it's going in whiny, and just complain for the sake of complaining. How about those people come up with a decent rebuttal as some have been doing, or rather don't post at all? It's not like those posts are contributing to the discussion.

[VargasVermillion]

If those two dungeons are well designed and not just bland cookie cutter placeholders like most of the 3.0 leveling dungeons then that would be fine.

[SDaemon]

There's a fine line between not "raising a pitchfork against SE" and calling anybody who dislikes any aspect of the game, or the direction it's going in whiny, and just complain for the sake of complaining. How about those people come up with a decent rebuttal as some have been doing, or rather don't post at all? It's not like those posts are contributing to the discussion.

I'm sure despite any rebuttal they could come up with someone who would label them as a white knight would continue to do so for the simple fact they are defending against their complaint towards the game/SE, which the accuser no doubt holds to be irrefutable.

Approving of a choice SE is making doesn't make someone a white knight anymore than not agreeing with it makes someone whiny, so long as they can constructively stand by (support) their opinion. (this includes through discussion/debate.)

[Colorful]

I'm sure despite any rebuttal they could come up with someone who would label them as a white knight would continue to do so for the simple fact they are defending against their complaint towards the game/SE, which the accuser no doubt holds to be irrefutable.

Approving of a choice SE is making doesn't make someone a white knight anymore than not agreeing with it makes someone whiny, so long as they can constructively stand by their opinion.

I couldn't care less if they provide a decent rebuttal, I'm talking specifically about the people without one. There's far too much people claiming people are whiny and that's it.

If those two dungeons are well designed and not just bland cookie cutter placeholders like most of the 3.0 leveling dungeons then that would be fine.

This entirely. Also why does SE insist on making dungeons 25-30 minutes long but making them insanely bland with trash that takes a long time to die (why does a bee take 20-30 seconds to kill?...). We can have varied content, and they can still be dungeons. People who are active on this forum are likely tired of my comparisons to WoW, but I'll keep making them since FFXIV is almost a complete copy. Before Blizzard decided to butcher dungeons, they had a lot of interesting ones that were somewhat different than the normal ones, with very interesting story moments, such as the Halls of Reflection.

[SDaemon]

I couldn't care less if they provide a decent rebuttal, I'm talking specifically about the people without one. There's far too much people claiming people are whiny and that's it.

I would be more apt to call them forums trolls if all they do is call people whiny and that's it, no reason why they approve of the current "whatever" or why the poster is wrong in their criticism, just calling the poster whiny.