Why further enhancements to market wards?

[Meimei]

Nobody "likes" FFXIV in its current state, we're all beta testing still and waiting on updates to destroy that which sux and establishing that which (does not) sux.

That said, I'm...really, really tired of these threads. No, an AH is not "needed." Will we get one? Most likely. Will Market Wards be scrapped and replaced? Doubtful, there's no reason to get rid of something which has been shown to gradually improve with baby steps. AH and MW would work best in harmony with one another, covering the faults of eachother with a peaceful co-existence. Don't want to deal with price gougers and undercutters on the AH? Go on over to Market Wards and browse around instead.

Market Wards are not as bad as people seem to enjoy crying about. Do they need improvements? God yes! Why do you think we're getting them?! Honestly...

Bottom line, there are far, far, FAR more important things this game needs right now than an AH. It can wait. Be patient, children~

[RickJames]

Nobody "likes" FFXIV in its current state, we're all beta testing still and waiting on updates to destroy that which sux and establishing that which (does not) sux.

That said, I'm...really, really tired of these threads. No, an AH is not "needed." Will we get one? Most likely. Will Market Wards be scrapped and replaced? Doubtful, there's no reason to get rid of something which has been shown to gradually improve with baby steps. AH and MW would work best in harmony with one another, covering the faults of eachother with a peaceful co-existence. Don't want to deal with price gougers and undercutters on the AH? Go on over to Market Wards and browse around instead.

Market Wards are not as bad as people seem to enjoy crying about. Do they need improvements? God yes! Why do you think we're getting them?! Honestly...

Bottom line, there are far, far, FAR more important things this game needs right now than an AH. It can wait. Be patient, children~

Yeah like bathing suit events right?

[Shikyo]

I dont think they will ignor the majority, the majority= money and that in the end is what its all about.

They thought the majority wanted solo play, they found out they were wrong and now they are changing accordingly.

They thought that the majority of ppl wanted mish mashed mix and match 10 piece combo classes, wrong that too is being changed.

They thought the majority of ppl like the optimal anyone can wear anything equip system, Not that is now a thing of the past.

They thought the majority of ppl Liked spending hours upon hours crafting and repairing gear instead of playing the damn game, so they made a overly uneccessarily complicated craft system that makes you use 40 items to make a a damn glove, "oh crap ppl dont think thats fun?" NO, so that's down the shitter.

They think that the majority is ok with the aweful MW system atm so they keep adding paste and popsicle sticks to "fix" it
they'll see that that wont work and it too will change.

The one thing SE should know about the MAJORITY of players is that they wont pay hard earned cash on a crap game, and the majority is who's voices will be heard, to me the majority seems to know good gaming and what fun is, SE will see this as well, just wait and see.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Nobody "likes" FFXIV in its current state, we're all beta testing still and waiting on updates to destroy that which sux and establishing that which (does not) sux.

That said, I'm...really, really tired of these threads. No, an AH is not "needed." Will we get one? Most likely. Will Market Wards be scrapped and replaced? Doubtful, there's no reason to get rid of something which has been shown to gradually improve with baby steps. AH and MW would work best in harmony with one another, covering the faults of eachother with a peaceful co-existence. Don't want to deal with price gougers and undercutters on the AH? Go on over to Market Wards and browse around instead.

Market Wards are not as bad as people seem to enjoy crying about. Do they need improvements? God yes! Why do you think we're getting them?! Honestly...

Bottom line, there are far, far, FAR more important things this game needs right now than an AH. It can wait. Be patient, children~

After 1.20 and maybe 1.21 I don't see many other things needed than these top three things starting with an Auction House, Player Housing, and Delivery System of sorts. Yes an AH is "needed" and the question is not will we get one but
"When" will we get one. I am not saying scrap the market wards sure they can coexist but is there really a point to have both? Not really, take the superior form via Auction House and make majority of the remaining and new fans happy.

[Celtodeno]

Would you rather have RTM's run the economy or players? THINK ABOUT IT...

if you find you have no real opinion of this matter than don't worry yourself about such complicated issues as the economy.

I salute the attempts on behalf of SE to put the control of the economy in the hands of the player.

The problem is not the market wards, it is a problem with crafting. It is far too easy to craft ANYTHING, making everything worth nothing.

This makes the prospect of spending time acquiring something that is in essences worth nothing, just annoying.

When it becomes a challenge to acquire a well-crafted piece of loot, and there are simple enough means to finding it, the prospect of spending some extra time to find will fall more inline with epic gear of RPG's past.

[Jaber]

Yeah like bathing suit events right?

As long as they're skimpier than the last, I'm all for more bathing suit events D:

[RickJames]

Would you rather have RTM's run the economy or players? THINK ABOUT IT...

if you find you have no real opinion of this matter than don't worry yourself about such complicated issues as the economy.

I salute the attempts on behalf of SE to put the control of the economy in the hands of the player.

The problem is not the market wards, it is a problem with crafting. It is far too easy to craft ANYTHING, making everything worth nothing.

This makes the prospect of spending time acquiring something that is in essences worth nothing, just annoying.

When it becomes a challenge to acquire a well-crafted piece of loot, and there are simple enough means to finding it, the prospect of spending some extra time to find will fall more inline with epic gear of RPG's past.

Did you know other MMOs have auction houses?
Did you know other MMOs have similar RMT types trying to take over the economy in said MMO
Did you know other MMOs with auction houses and similar RMT issues have more stable economies than FFXIVs

RMT is not a legit reason to not have an auction house.

[Holland]

I am just glad they plan to keep trying and not give up on the Wards. Nothing is set in stone, if they see this is still crap by the time they need to charge, they'll implement what ever is needed, its not like were dealing with the old SE who doesnt listen.

[Zetonegi]

Would you rather have RTM's run the economy or players? THINK ABOUT IT...

if you find you have no real opinion of this matter than don't worry yourself about such complicated issues as the economy.

I salute the attempts on behalf of SE to put the control of the economy in the hands of the player.

The problem is not the market wards, it is a problem with crafting. It is far too easy to craft ANYTHING, making everything worth nothing.

This makes the prospect of spending time acquiring something that is in essences worth nothing, just annoying.

When it becomes a challenge to acquire a well-crafted piece of loot, and there are simple enough means to finding it, the prospect of spending some extra time to find will fall more inline with epic gear of RPG's past.

I'd rather have a working economy... I mean look at wow they have an AH and their economy isn't controlled by RMT. No, an AH isn't why FFXI's economy was hyper-inflated, it was because of an abuse involving the Tavnazian Safehold and duping that caused people to get obscenely rich and when they bought things for extremely overpriced amounts of money they created the economic hell we knew as FFXI. The fact that RMT came out of the woodwork shortly after didn't help but they didn't cause the economic problems of XI. In fact, FFXI's economy is largely RMT free now but it still has the AH...

OK I finished thinking about it and I realized you have no clue what you're talking about and are just trying to fear-monger.

[GreyWolf]

Would you rather have RTM's run the economy or players? THINK ABOUT IT...

if you find you have no real opinion of this matter than don't worry yourself about such complicated issues as the economy.

I salute the attempts on behalf of SE to put the control of the economy in the hands of the player.

I really doubt RMT would run an economy when most of the buyers are normal players, someone lists an item for an off the wall price, will it be sold before the ones being sold for a more modest price? I don't think so. what if they undercut? well I don't mind getting a good deal on something that's supposed to be worth more, don't think anyone would. and the item keeps selling for that low of a price? well wouldn't that now be the normal price for it? sounds kinda legit to me. Also I doubt RMT would sell rare items for cheap so that's not gonna happen.