A savage static without a paladin

[Agrieus]

Ninja also works well with Drk for the slashing debuff. And Dragoon just works well with anything/everything thanks to battle litany, but I see the point you're trying to make.

[Phoenicia]

One thing to note is if you don't have a MNK DRK is a little nicer due to delirium providing the int down debuff.

If you do have a monk pld is nice for str down debuff and still get int down debuff.

Drgs work nice with Drk
Mnk works nice with Pld
Nin works nice with War.

Just nice due to rotations and debuffs supplied, not at all required.

You shouldn't be pairing DPS one by one with the tanks. DPS ratio to tanks is 2:1. Unlike healers to tanks.

NIN buffs all three tanks equally. As a matter of fact, NIN works better for the other tanks just because of Goad. But WAR synergy with NIN is good because they can drop DE.

MNK and DRG get and give no direct benefit to and from the tanks. But they have their raid utility.

The right way to look at it imo is:

You don't need a MNK if you have a DRK.
You don't need a NIN if you have a WAR. But WAR adds to NIN nicely.
DRG is king of DPS and there is no reason not to bring one, like ever!

[Phoebus]

You shouldn't be pairing DPS one by one with the tanks. DPS ratio to tanks is 2:1. Unlike healers to tanks.

NIN buffs all three tanks equally. As a matter of fact, NIN works better for the other tanks just because of Goad. But WAR synergy with NIN is good because they can drop DE.

MNK and DRG get and give no direct benefit to and from the tanks. But they have their raid utility.

The right way to look at it imo is:

You don't need a MNK if you have a DRK.
You don't need a NIN if you have a WAR. But WAR adds to NIN nicely.
DRG is king of DPS and there is no reason not to bring one, like ever!

That was pretty much my point i was just trying to keep it brief as i am on phone. Thanks for the elaboration.

[Synestra]

DRG is king of DPS and there is no reason not to bring one, like ever!

Unless you are on EU server, latency is killing their optimal play for most as there is no way you can weave 2 oGCD's durning GCD its just impossible(NiN is on same boat due mudras). So because of this MNK is actually most optimal melee class for EU players if you are suffering from heavy latency/delays.

[Phoenicia]

Unless you are on EU server, latency is killing their optimal play for most as there is no way you can weave 2 oGCD's durning GCD its just impossible(NiN is on same boat due mudras). So because of this MNK is actually most optimal melee class for EU players if you are suffering from heavy latency/delays.

But even on my server (which is EU) DRGs are outDPSing monks.

[Sleigh]

As long as you have a WAR + PLD or DRK you're golden for current content.

[Faeon]

But even on my server (which is EU) DRGs are outDPSing monks.

Ya I agree on that, seen that too.

[Werhusky]

Maybe it's more flexible than I thought...though an offtank paladin sounds odd. I must still be in the 2.0 mindset.

Former static was MT WAR-OT WAR at start then I swapped from WAR to SCH and we got a PLD so we were MT WAR - OT PLD. The pally took a game break we got another WAR again. The OT WAR swapped to DRK in Heavensward till we disbanded lately (some other story).
I don't see any issues in any combo seeing that were our compositions SCOB and FCOB echoless.

Unless you are on EU server, latency is killing their optimal play for most as there is no way you can weave 2 oGCD's durning GCD its just impossible(NiN is on same boat due mudras). So because of this MNK is actually most optimal melee class for EU players if you are suffering from heavy latency/delays.

Wonder what you talk about I level mnk for fun and am on an odd connection that makes me lag in the evenings currently... my DPS is shit because I rarely get to activate 3rd skill of combos and keep GL up

[Faeon]

Former static was MT WAR-OT WAR at start then I swapped from WAR to SCH and we got a PLD so we were MT WAR - OT PLD. The pally took a game break we got another WAR again. The OT WAR swapped to DRK in Heavensward till we disbanded lately (some other story).
I don't see any issues in any combo seeing that were our compositions SCOB and FCOB echoless.



Wonder what you talk about I level mnk for fun and am on an odd connection that makes me lag in the evenings currently... my DPS is shit because I rarely get to activate 3rd skill of combos and keep GL up

Might be better when we get our EU server, though for me from my region wont make that much of a difference either way

[Werhusky]

Might be better when we get our EU server, though for me from my region wont make that much of a difference either way

Hope is there