The disapointment that is Alexander

[Shadray]

Coil felt like we were delving into the unknown, discovering ancient secrets, battling long forgotten enemies.

Alex is more like "hey let's just nip in here for some loot."

[Peekachu33]

The Alex story bits were the only cutscenes that I skipped in Heavensward. I found them insufferably dull and campy in a bad way.

[Asierid]

Coil felt like we were delving into the unknown, discovering ancient secrets, battling long forgotten enemies.

And walking into a mountain sized death machine ran by crazy cultist midgets, with an affinity for technology, is not delving into the unknown and yadda yadda?

Right.

We only waltzed into an old lab which held a dragon we knew wasn't "dead", (only to fight his spirit at half of the size he was originally) with a girl that did nothing but annoy until we found evidence of her grandpa (And she still did nothing). The other bosses were meh and had no place, lorewise, aside from the spoiler one. Even that got old once you realized that the story behind it was essentially an episode of DBZ.

You can say that both stories are about equal in this case in terms of quality, and the rest of Alex isn't even out yet. So how are you supposed to judge this? This is like saying Coil sucked because the first turn had terrible story...

[Shadray]

I was talking about the feel of the place not the lore.

And of course as my feelings are my own I was stating an opinion, you don't have to share it.

I'm not saying I dislike Alex it just feels more like a dance club than a dungeon.

[fortuona]

Alexander feels really rushed compared to coil. Overall presentation, fight design, and story are all lacking.

[Asierid]

I was talking about the feel of the place not the lore.

And of course as my feelings are my own I was stating an opinion, you don't have to share it.

I'm not saying I dislike Alex it just feels more like a dance club than a dungeon.

Exactly, an opinion...

Which would have merit if it wasn't basing an entire raid off of the music and the first part of a dungeon; while comparing it to a complete dungeon that didn't actually have that well of a start either.

There is more to the entire raid. I know everyone else here fails to acknowledge this, but perhaps you should wait til the whole damn thing comes out and then attempt to compare the two before making a judgement.

[ApolloOphion]

Exactly, an opinion...

Which would have merit if it wasn't basing an entire raid off of the music and the first part of a dungeon; while comparing it to a complete dungeon that didn't actually have that well of a start either.

There is more to the entire raid. I know everyone else here fails to acknowledge this, but perhaps you should wait til the whole damn thing comes out and then attempt to compare the two before making a judgement.

This guy gets it.

[Shadray]

I don't remember passing any judgements. I simply stated my opinion as to the feeling (maybe atmosphere would be a better word?) of the place.

[Asierid]

I don't remember passing any judgements. I simply stated my opinion as to the feeling (maybe atmosphere would be a better word?) of the place.

Let's see...

Oh? What's this second link?

I can't see, let me get my reading glasses....

The fourth point states the following: "the forming of an opinion, estimate, notion, or conclusion, as from circumstances presented to the mind"

That, my good sir or madam, is the definition of judgement.

[Elim]

So you're saying we should only compare A1-4 to first coil?

k.

IMO first coil had better story and aesthetics, but to each their own.