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    No 1v1

    In a recent interview for the upcoming 3.1 update. Yoshida was adamant that there will never be 1vs1 play because balancing classes would screw up pve.
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    http://jpgames.de/2015/08/gamescom-2...naoki-yoshida/
    For those who want to read the whole interview.
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    "But if you want to request something like to calculate how much damage you deal for test purposes, then you can let us know and we can look into it." Is he telling us to ask for a parser?
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    From the wording, it sounds like he was saying that we will never have meaningful content (content via Duty Finder, since he specifically mentioned that) based on 1v1 PvP. Perhaps 1v1 just-for-fun dueling in the open world (or in specific sub-zones of the game) may still be a possibility, as it doesn't sound like he declined that entirely. After all, that "this class can't beat that class" balance concern is a nonissue when players can simply pick and choose their duels rather than queue up against random opponents.

    That said, I wonder about the accuracy of this translation of the interview. Subtle details can be hard to determine in translations.
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    Last edited by Vandril; 08-13-2015 at 07:29 PM.

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    An duel function is the easiest solution but SE need years to understand that.
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    C'mon...

    We are months in and the wolves den is almost not a complete disaster. 1v1 pvp would be just a tacked on thing that would simply serve to piss off the pvp populations of the game. I feel like 1v1 would turn out like 1v1 borderlands duels... where people do them once and then never touch it again cause it's so broken.
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    As I said in other threads; no thanks to Duels even if I must fight with my scholar against another healer.

    again: http://jpgames.de/2015/08/gamescom-2...naoki-yoshida/

    JPGames.de: Are there any plans for a 1 vs 1 dueling system?
    NY: It’s been asked several times already, but we don’t have any plans to do it at the moment. We are not going to make something on the system with it, that is, make content with it. We do not have this plan at all. Say that in Duty Finder you have a list PvP 1 v 1, we will not have that. Because the job balances are not based on 1 v 1. Let’s say that a scholar won’t be able to beat astrologian, that’s impossible. It will not be fun, that is why we will not do it. If we would do it and start balancing on the jobs, it would affect PvE. But if you want to request something like to calculate how much damage you deal for test purposes, then you can let us know and we can look into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudokun3 View Post
    As I said in other threads; no thanks to Duels even if I must fight with my scholar against another healer.

    again: http://jpgames.de/2015/08/gamescom-2...naoki-yoshida/
    It sounds more like he was talking about 1v1 "arena" matches than a simple duel system.

    Again: http://jpgames.de/2015/08/gamescom-2...naoki-yoshida/

    JPGames.de: Are there any plans for a 1 vs 1 dueling system?
    NY: It’s been asked several times already, but we don’t have any plans to do it at the moment. We are not going to make something on the system with it, that is, make content with it. We do not have this plan at all. Say that in Duty Finder you have a list PvP 1 v 1, we will not have that. Because the job balances are not based on 1 v 1. Let’s say that a scholar won’t be able to beat astrologian, that’s impossible. It will not be fun, that is why we will not do it. If we would do it and start balancing on the jobs, it would affect PvE. But if you want to request something like to calculate how much damage you deal for test purposes, then you can let us know and we can look into it.
    You wouldn't have to fight any duels you wouldn't find fun if it were just a duel request system.

    Seriously, most everyone knows that an instanced duel system with random match-ups would be boring as balls. But that's not true for an open-world (even if it's restricted to certain buildings or something) duel-request system where you can pick and choose your battles.

    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    C'mon...

    We are months in and the wolves den is almost not a complete disaster. 1v1 pvp would be just a tacked on thing that would simply serve to piss off the pvp populations of the game. I feel like 1v1 would turn out like 1v1 borderlands duels... where people do them once and then never touch it again cause it's so broken.
    Duels are incredibly broken and imbalanced in nearly every MMORPG that has them. Most of those RPGs aren't balanced for 1v1, either. Yet, despite this, in these games, duels tend to be wildly popular amongst the respective PvP communities. Typically, duels are opt-in content with no reward, so the people that don't like them have absolutely no pressure to participate in them, and the people who do like them can participate to their hearts' desires.
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    Last edited by Vandril; 08-14-2015 at 03:47 PM. Reason: A few edits as I added more clarifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandril View Post
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    I really want to have hope that their wording didn't rule out duels altogether buuut... I can't stay optimistic about it anymore lol. I'm just going to keep doing 1v1's through Wolves' Den and if they decide to actually add them, then score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    I really want to have hope that their wording didn't rule out duels altogether buuut... I can't stay optimistic about it anymore lol. I'm just going to keep doing 1v1's through Wolves' Den and if they decide to actually add them, then score.
    I know that feeling. I'm not very optimistic about it anymore, myself. However, I don't believe they've firmly denied all possibility of it, and until they do there is at least a slight chance.

    Kind of like how there's a slight chance that they'll add small-scale PvP to Elder Scrolls Online.

    In either case, we can only dream until (and unless) it happens. @_@
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