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  1. #41
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    SuzakuCMX's Avatar
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    Peach Parfait
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Both have advantage and disadvantage. Noct's 5% healing buff helps to close the gap but Aspected sucks with paired with SCH. Diurnal is great HoT healing but robs you of mp fast.
    The 5% potency from Noct is far worse than the potency gain from the regens. Diurnal is far more efficient in mana than Nocturnal because of it.

    The 5% "advantage" in Noct is an illusion. Noct has no advantages over Di currently.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  2. #42
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    Miiu's Avatar
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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 90
    After reading Yoshi's answers I feel like they didn't spent enough time planning how Astro's will fit the grand scheme of things, which kinda frustrates me. He talks about walking a fine line since AST has some overlap with SCH/WHM but that is something they decided on instead of adding a third way to heal people. They made it really hard for themselves.

    Personally I don't think they'll get around a overhaul of the card system and or how cards will interact with healing spells.
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  3. #43
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    Kyett Corbeau
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    Summoner Lv 90
    The specific mention of 'RNG problem' makes me really afraid they're going to just fix Shuffle and go 'welp, cards are good now'.
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  4. #44
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    Zaj_Quilos's Avatar
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    Zaj Quilos
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    Odin
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    i've healed with another AST before and we've both done fine and don't need to communicate.
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  5. #45
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    YuiSasaki's Avatar
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    This is really, really strange for me to say, since I've played wow for so long and I'm used to completely incompetent devs thst don't listen to a word you say...
    This is so sad, and yet so true...

    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    Im happy that its acknowledged, however i feel a bit pain now to be playing 3-4 or maybe even 5 more weeks until AST will be fixed..
    I wonder if you have to wait that long. He said they'd observe 1-2 weeks after data collection is done (which he defined as very soon). I think that they already have some fixes/buffs/call-them-what-you-likes up their sleeves, so things MIGHT get started right after that observation time. Could be wishful thinking on my side though. Guess patience is indeed a virtue.
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  6. #46
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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 90
    To be honest I think its really unlikely of them to add any more AST changes before 3.1. It'll be repeat of how they handled warrior.
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  7. #47
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well after reading the interview I think the primary focus should be on buffing the cards over the heals mainly to give AST a better identity.
    That is simply not how this game works. We are not support, we are a healer.
    If we cannot heal the damage going out, they can buff our buffs as much as they want, you will never be used by progress and always be known as the "farm content" healer.
    I don't know about you, but that is not a place i ever want to be in.
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  8. #48
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    We can give our opinion on the matter but we will have to wait and see what they specifically state they are going to do with the job when the developer letter comes out on the 20th I think is the date. Card buffs itself is strong but the range could be worked on a bit. Bole though I do not think I have ever used it once over royal road fodder. I wish when you use royal road though the next draw would be reduced dramatically over having to wait another 30 seconds.
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  9. #49
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    That is simply not how this game works. We are not support, we are a healer.
    If we cannot heal the damage going out, they can buff our buffs as much as they want, you will never be used by progress and always be known as the "farm content" healer.
    I don't know about you, but that is not a place i ever want to be in.
    /sigh, the key problem isn't that we can't heal, if it was you wouldn't be leveling it right now and people couldn't be clearing content. It's we have lower heals and don't bring much to the party other than that RNG buff system which only has 3 out of 6 buff worthwhile. AST has a lot of issues that need to be fixed but simple bumping up our heals to compare to the other guys isn't going to help.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    The 5% potency from Noct is far worse than the potency gain from the regens. Diurnal is far more efficient in mana than Nocturnal because of it.

    The 5% "advantage" in Noct is an illusion. Noct has no advantages over Di currently.
    Seems you stopped reading after half a sentence I said they both have advantage and disadvantage, not one is greater than the other. I personal think HoT on Diurnal is great but the mp is very costly to use it continually as a mitigation tool and just times it's just cheaper to use helios.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 08-13-2015 at 02:45 AM.

  10. #50
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    /sigh, the key problem isn't that we can't heal, if it was you wouldn't be leveling it right now and people couldn't be clearing content. It's we have lower heals and don't bring much to the party other than that RNG buff system which only has 3 out of 6 buff worthwhile. AST has a lot of issues that need to be fixed but simple bumping up our heals to compare to the other guys isn't going to help.
    Again, we can bring buffs that double damage, if we cannot outheal the damage that is inc we are useless on any progress content and always be known as farm content healer.
    I don't know if you missed it, but a ast has the healer role in duty journal and that should be first thing we do and it should have been the thing our cards do instead of random buffs.

    Today i did a vault run where the tank was constantly getting hit pretty dam hard.
    The only thing i could do was pray for an arrow card so my heals would increase a tiny bit, we have nothing else.
    You have any idea how frustrating that was?

    If i was a scholar i could have used rouse, fey illumination and straight up heal through it.
    Same with whm divine seal/speedspell (forgot the name) combo.
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    Last edited by Assirra; 08-13-2015 at 02:51 AM.

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