Did the game get too complicated, or am I just an idiot?

[Alahra]

For me Heavensward PLAYS worse than Realm Reborn.

I feel rather lucky, as NIN and MCH both seem to play fairly well (though I think NIN's timers need some slight adjustment, as Aeolian Edge can be hard to use in a number of situations now). But I can imagine a number of classes don't feel that way now, and I think it's unfortunate. They really should have gone with 3 Traits and 2 Abilities (as the pattern pre-50 would have suggested). We won't likely see any major overhauls until 4.0, though. Hopefully they can at least ease up on how restrictive some of the new priorities and timers are before them.

[Joenalor]

Dont see why they would kick you.. Unless you dying in every fight so far I never been kick once.. Either that or your doing need on every loot drop will cause a kick too lol

[Lucael_Shikaree]

The guy changed his 110 weapon to a 133. Hopefully his rant will come to an end now.

[SwarleyMcSwarls]

I've legit never seen anyone get kicked for straight dps issues. If you are going afk, ignoring mechanics, or just ignoring simple tank and spank dungeon procedures yeah, you're probably going to get kicked. So I'd say run some dungeons with people you know and see if there's anything they notice that you are just blatantly disregarding or doing so terribly wrong you could get kicked for it. Straight up, you should not be getting kicked for dps issues when you are running casual dungeons. Especially because it sounds like you are at least trying to dps. Either way, I hope this doesn't ruin the game for you because it is really fun and there is a good community behind all the griefers that think they know everything about every class because they downed titan ex one time.

[RapBreon]

The only real fight where I've actually had an issue so far is A4. A1, I can pop my buffs first thing and I'll sit on Wildfires until after the bots land again. A2... Well, not really as much use for it there as most mobs die before it goes off. A3 is fairly simple to manage it as there's plenty of time each phase. It's mostly A4 phase 2 that gets me. After the first leg is shattered, I save my Wildfire for the beginning of the second, which usually goes off fine. It's when I'm dealing with dolls, lasers and Quarantine at the same time that it gets messy. Which I'm sure it does for other classes.

I usually am near top dps on Alex fights, so I've gotten down pretty well, imo. It just sucks getting punished so hard for unavoidable mechanics. I'm not sure how hard it is for other classes to reapply their big buffs like BotD or Enochian, but having to rely on multiple 90+ second cooldowns and a 15 second window just to be competitive is really annoying and can be hard to recover from if something does screw up. Especially when several of the cooldowns don't even line up well, like Reload and Hypercharge, and you're left relying on RNG procs to just not lose your dps too much. That's not about skill, it's about luck, which always a bad design choice, in my mind.

I can't speak for BLM. But if I get sucked up after a Geirskogul, I lose BoTD and become a 2.0 DRG. There is no 'luck' in this situation, I took the chance to Geirskogul before a Quarantine and paid for it. Whilst the mechanic itself is not avoidable, you can certainly mitigate its effect on your total DPS. If you were to play around this mechanic (as Square presumably intends) you would not be 'punished so hard', no more than most other classes.

Another approach would be to queue a DF A4 and just not do your rotation optimally. Sit there counting the globals (or use a stop-watch or some such) between each Quarantine phase then multiply the total amount of globals by your recast timer. Repeating for each leg (1 is less of an issue than 2 though). This way you won't need to track when someone else gets sucked up (which can be challenging depending on the situation); you'll have timers and - with practice - a rhythm and feel for when each Quarantine. Failing that you could employ a stop-watch (or an ACT plugin) so you know exactly when each Quarantine comes. Regardless, the outcome will be Quarantine never screwing with your DPS cooldowns ever again for 20 odd minutes of work.

People would argue that this is ridiculous and shouldn't be required. To that I agree for the most part and it isn't. If you as a player are OK with not performing 100% then sure. I personally don't do it, not worth the effort for a DF level encounter when I can just press my buttons and win easily anyway. But blaming the class/team/players/game/RNG/insertscapegoat is typically misplaced (though not always), not when you can do something about it.

I'm bored and just felt like sharing my philosophy.

Edit: Spelling.

[Eecka]

People would argue that this is ridiculous and shouldn't be required.

That's the thing, unless you're in alex Savage, it isn't required. People don't want to do "enough" DPS, they want to be able to reach the potential maximum, but with less effort. I can pretty much guarantee you that these players don't have issues regarding progression.

There's more gear available than needed, you can do 60% of your DPS potential and clear everything but Savage.

[RapBreon]

That's the thing, unless you're in alex Savage, it isn't required. People don't want to do "enough" DPS, they want to be able to reach the potential maximum, but with less effort. I can pretty much guarantee you that these players don't have issues regarding progression.

There's more gear available than needed, you can do 60% of your DPS potential and clear everything but Savage.

Indeed. I personally don't agree with the mind-set (not to accuse my previous interlocutor of anything). To want something played to its maximum potential without investing effort is...difficult for me to sympathize with. Especially when it is not preventing them from fulfilling their duty. However, majority rules and time will tell.

[Eecka]

I just don't get it, is it just people with bad self esteen feeling bad about themselves if they're not at top? "I don't want to min/max, and the option shouldn't be there for others either".

I feel like with the 2.X DRG rotation, there was very little room for gradual learning. It's either you know your optimal rotation or you don't, and there's no " I did slightly better than last time". A complex rotation gives you an actual learning curve, especially with stuff like blood of the dragon where the buff usage depend heavily on fight by fight basis.

[Seku]

Only gotten around to wrapping up Drk, War, and Pld, Working on Mnk atm. Small learning curves, but not too hard to learn.

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I feel like with the 2.X DRG rotation, there was very little room for gradual learning. It's either you know your optimal rotation or you don't, and there's no " I did slightly better than last time". A complex rotation gives you an actual learning curve, especially with stuff like blood of the dragon where the buff usage depend heavily on fight by fight basis.

Not sure how hard Drg is to learn. But that'll be my next class. ;/ Wanna get rid of these STR accs.

[Nyalia]

Only really two possibilities here, OP:

1. You were focusing on one target at a time when the tank pulled 3+ enemies at once. BLM is still the best AoE job in the game for levels 50-57 (even with the nerf). Doing single target DPS instead of AoE when you're playing the best AoE could be why people are calling you out. Your AoE rotation for those levels should still be the same its always been: Fire 3, Flare, Transpose, (Pause), Fire 3, Fire 2, Fire 2, Flare, Transpose, (Pause), Fire 3... It's only when you get Blizzard IV and Fire IV that your rotation changes at all, and suddenly BLMs become significantly better at single-target DPS than AoE DPS. Until then, it's same as its always been - AoE > single target. Actually, for BLMs 50-57, with even just TWO enemies at once, the AoE rotation is superior to the single-target rotation. But, people should only be caring/calling you out if there are 3+ because the difference is kinda minor before that.

2. There's something else that you aren't telling us. Did you throw personal attacks at people who suggested you should be AoEing? Did someone point out that your weapon's ilvl is kinda low for your level, and you jumped down their throats? Having some sort of attitude tends to lead to vote-kicks much faster than slightly sub-optimal performance. Heck, I had an FCmate auto-attack his way through a dungeon (he was apparently watching anime and not really caring) and the randoms with us didn't votekick him or even say anything about it. (I almost did vote-kick him, and did speak with him after, because that seriously pissed me off!) But, he didn't blame the other DPS in party chat when we failed a DPS check or get all nasty about it or anything.