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  1. #211
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    Sandkat's Avatar
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    Sandkat Sadtank
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Teppie View Post
    I was just mulling this over, being on a legacy server and seeing so many people with Legacy Tattoo's, myself included..
    You're a legacy on a different account yes? Because you're join date says different.

    Join date: Aug 2013. Thats ARR release. So different account then? Or just a veiled "I deserve stuff that happened before I joined" ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    It did not show support or being earned though! You could have gotten it for 100% free though, all you had to do is make a character at the time. It is like an event. By this exclusivity logic, the past event items should not be allowed in the cash shop, since the players and characters were not actually at those events. It is silly! There is no reason to lock out people from items or aesthetics, especially new players and current supporters of the game.
    Be subscribed for a minimum of 90 days before the cut off date for Chocobo, Name, Sub decrease, early access. Tattoo was pretty much any character created during 1.0
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    Last edited by Sandkat; 08-12-2015 at 08:12 AM.

  2. #212
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    mirellol's Avatar
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    Mirela Melonas
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Have to agree. The way the campaign was set up does not care of the people who actually supported the game monetarily from the start nor recognize them in any way just because they were there too early and at the wrong time. I don't know. Maybe it wasn't about money for SE but rather statistics aka needing to have enough numbers of people show activity at that given time exactly for reasons? Who knows.

    I just wish I could get something too to show off for being there originally. Maybe I need to glamour those goggles... :'D
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  3. #213
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    Titor Jaraba
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    Balmung
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandkat View Post
    Be subscribed for a minimum of 90 days before the cut off date.
    -facedesk- Legacy status yes is to be subbed for 90 days. Getting the TATTOO is not a part of the legacy status. The legacy status is for your whole account. The carteneau tattoo was on a character by character basis. It meant that the character was logged into during the specified times. You can have a character with a tattoo without being legacy if you paid nothing. It was /LITERALLY/ an event thing and had nothing to do with whether or not you financially supported SE. If it were part of the legacy status account, then all characters on a legacy account would have it. But they do not. It was on a per character basis, independent of money or support.
    You can also have a legacy account with no tattooed character if you just paid for the sub but never logged in.
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  4. 08-12-2015 08:24 AM

  5. #214
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    Zhane's Avatar
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    Benjamin Belmont
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Idc about the tattoo but it's very interesting to see how ppl react on a few pixels which are covered up by armor for the majority of the time except they really want to show off they are "special"
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  6. 08-12-2015 08:40 AM

  7. #215
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    T2teddy's Avatar
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    Fionn Iolair
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Teppie View Post
    Well it just seems a bit weird for things to be exclusive, there's no reason to bar content from customers who actively want it. It's not like it's hidden behind some big grind or hard boss, it's just simply 100% inaccessible, and that can be sort of demoralizing to new players knowing from the word go they can't possibly achieve everything.
    A legacy is something which is handed down from the PAST...as in the FIRST version of XIV which no longer exists. They can no longer be obtained for a reason. They were EARNED for being a part of FF history.
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  8. #216
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhane View Post
    Idc about the tattoo but it's very interesting to see how ppl react on a few pixels which are covered up by armor for the majority of the time except they really want to show off they are "special"
    yea cause no one deserves to feel special... /sarcasm

    the tattoo was a way to say hey thanks for playing 1.0 even if it was for 5 minutes or how even long a person played, SE could of very well just wiped everything and made everyone start with new character at level 1.
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  9. #217
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    Titor's Avatar
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    Titor Jaraba
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    the tattoo was a way to say hey thanks for playing 1.0 even if it was for 5 minutes or how even long a person played.
    It was not given to every 1.0 player. As said above, there are some players who had bought collectors edition of 1.0, and played for a while at the beginning, paying money, and have no tattoo or anything to show for it, not even legacy benefits.
    Then you have someone who created a character at the right time and never played again who has it. This is proof it is literally an event item and not a 'thank you' or anything of that nature.

    The 'thank you' is the legacy status with reduced subscription cost.
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  10. #218
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    DreameR7g's Avatar
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    Dreamer Rigorstorm
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    Jenova
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
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    Then people missed out on obtaining the tattoo. Not everything people miss out on deserves to come back, after all. ESPECIALLY if it had ties to 1.0. Otherwise, you're pretty much saying "I don't care if you played 1.0 and I didn't. I deserve to have it, regardless of what those people think or how they feel."

    At the end of the day, if SE wants to do it, they'll do it but every action has its consequence. The consequence here is that you take something which is perceived as special (The tattoo is one of those things) and then make it common place, destroying its original value. And you can understand why those who've obtained such a piece would be upset at the spike of value.
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  11. #219
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    It was not given to every 1.0 player. As said above, there are some players who had bought collectors edition of 1.0, and played for a while at the beginning, paying money, and have no tattoo or anything to show for it, not even legacy benefits.
    Then you have someone who created a character at the right time and never played again who has it. This is proof it is literally an event item and not a 'thank you' or anything of that nature.

    The 'thank you' is the legacy status with reduced subscription cost.
    It was a campaign that lasted for a set period; for example I started just as the Legacy campaign started so I have the Legacy tattoo - I missed out on the Legacy Chocobo and Legacy subscription pricing because - even though I paid for v1.21-1.23 my free trial pushed my required payment period outside the specified dates for having an active character and active optional subscription - by about 24hrs.

    So you're incorrect - it was not an "event item" it was a rewards program designed around retention and a thank you campaign for people willing to buy the game and play it during the campaign - with two (three if you count being in then credits) special bonuses if you also subscribed.

    I think putting something like this in the cash-shop would be fine - if you're willing to submit to the following conditions; pay for a six month subscription and only be able to fight Garuda HM and Ifrit HM for the duration. Additionally, no SMN/SCH/ACN/MCH/DRK/AST and you need to grind for days to get Darklight sets - which is the best gear available.



    Heh.
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    Last edited by Dhex; 08-12-2015 at 09:10 AM.

  12. #220
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    Titor Jaraba
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    Balmung
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DreameR7g View Post
    "I don't care if you played 1.0 and I didn't. I deserve to have it, regardless of what those people think or how they feel."
    This is actually pretty much how I feel. Whether or not you played 1.0 does not have meaning or impact on the game it is. I am a very strong supporter both with money and time into this game. I do not see a reason I should not be able to play the alternate timeline due to not knowing that 1.0 existed IRL. The mounts, the titles, and the 1.0 exclusive gear signified accomplishment. I am not trying to take that from you. An event tattoo that had nothing to do with money or support is something that I believe I should have the option to buy now with my current support of SE and the game, yes.

    I do not understand why 1.0 players 'deserve' this now. Is it because you think they spent more money? I am willing to spend the difference of cost in the cash shop now. So what is it, knowing about things 'before it was cool'. What is this, hipster status?
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    Last edited by Titor; 08-12-2015 at 09:06 AM.

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