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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    >_> What also helps is when a game actually has variety in stuff to do, rather than "get on, cap tomes, get alex loot, log off".
    MMOs used to have plenty to do to keep you busy, forever, without getting burnt out or taking 2-3 month long breaks. Now they've turned into Facebook/mobile games where you can only do so much before you have to wait a week.
    You capped your MGP already?
    Seriously, if you are only classifying top tier battle content and related tokens as the things this game has to offer, you have an incredibly narrow point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    You capped your MGP already?
    Seriously, if you are only classifying top tier battle content and related tokens as the things this game has to offer, you have an incredibly narrow point of view.
    Because MGP totally has a lot of things that actually do something for you >_>

    Going to say it again, but a lot of people need to see this. Achievements/MGP =/= Content
    People really need to stop trying to justify achievements and golden saucer as "plenty of things to do" because they can't think of anything else besides the small amount of content we have.

    I'm sorry if this is your first MMO, but for a lot of us, it's not. Quite a lot of people have been playing mmos for over a decade, so for us, achievements and vanity are not content, and you too, after years of playing mmos like we have, will see that too.

    If you could get tomes and what not from doing Golden Saucer, I'm sure a lot more people would do it, since there'd now be a little more variety in how to go about getting things, rather than 2 dungeons and 4 bosses.

    And let me just say it again, because I know someone will try to use the excuse later on but...

    If your only reply is "you don't have all achievements" or "is your MGP capped?" for there being "a lot of content", then even you too, deep down, know there's not much content when the only thing you can refer to is stuff that has no effect on the game whatsoever. All you're doing is protecting a bad game design (yes, it makes money, but a lot of us are bored of the stale formula used since 2.0) and lowering the chances of something fun and interesting that will give us more of a reason to play every month, from being added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Because MGP totally has a lot of things that actually do something for you >_>
    **snip**
    People really need to stop trying to justify achievements and golden saucer as "plenty of things to do" because they can't think of anything else besides the small amount of content we have.
    I was sarcastically pointing out how narrow your play focus is by asking whether you capped your MGP since capping MGP would be one hell of a grind (maxint MGP....), but would represent a similarly limited scope of game play.

    This isn't my first MMORPG, perhaps you think I am naive because I'm not bored?

    Here is what I am hearing from you and posters with a similar point of view;
    "This game doesn't give me enough content that specifically matches my narrow need so it's boring."

    This game has a ridiculous amount of content if you look at the game as a whole. It caters to a very wide audience of many skill levels and goals. The developers have to balance what they create to cover all the different areas of the game. If more was put into the specific content you want to see, less would go elsewhere, and someone else would be annoyed. So they try to strike a balance. The fact is, in a big game such a this with a broad audience as FFXIV has, it's not really possible for the developers to keep up with your need for additional hardcore content over and above everything else. For players with a broader view of the content, there is literally so much to do, it is sometimes difficult to know where to start.

    I understand that from your point of view the content is relatively limited because you play a specific subset of the game. Short of this becoming a hardcore only game, that's unlikely to change.

    There are indeed things for you to do, you need not be bored. However, you just don't want to do them, which is fine, and your own decision. You know that FFXIV is not a hardcore game already, anyone coming to it will know it's not hardcore if they do even minimal research. IMHO, it's unrealistic to expect something other than what we have, and somewhat pointless to post about being bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Because MGP totally has a lot of things that actually do something for you >_>

    Going to say it again, but a lot of people need to see this. Achievements/MGP =/= Content
    People really need to stop trying to justify achievements and golden saucer as "plenty of things to do" because they can't think of anything else besides the small amount of content we have.

    I'm sorry if this is your first MMO, but for a lot of us, it's not. Quite a lot of people have been playing mmos for over a decade, so for us, achievements and vanity are not content, and you too, after years of playing mmos like we have, will see that too.

    If you could get tomes and what not from doing Golden Saucer, I'm sure a lot more people would do it, since there'd now be a little more variety in how to go about getting things, rather than 2 dungeons and 4 bosses.

    And let me just say it again, because I know someone will try to use the excuse later on but...

    If your only reply is "you don't have all achievements" or "is your MGP capped?" for there being "a lot of content", then even you too, deep down, know there's not much content when the only thing you can refer to is stuff that has no effect on the game whatsoever. All you're doing is protecting a bad game design (yes, it makes money, but a lot of us are bored of the stale formula used since 2.0) and lowering the chances of something fun and interesting that will give us more of a reason to play every month, from being added.
    Anything is content. You're just defining content as the stuff YOU are interested in, which seems to be the highest ilvl gear. Learn to appreciate other's point of view or at least get right with definitions, which btw:

    con·tent2
    ˈkäntent/
    noun
    noun: content; plural noun: contents
    1. the things that are held or included in something...

    Gordias (Savage) is part of the content of this game just as something as trivial for many as the new seasonal event or the mail moogle quests are.
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