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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    The problem with a robotic race, as interesting as it is, is that it won't make sense when you factor in the Echo. When someone dies with the Echo, they take over the closest living things body. For a robot to do this... they would either become {one of six races} OR go through the painful process of turning flesh and bone into what makes them robotic.
    You could easily make a robotic race that has a "soul", it's a pretty common trope in fantasy settings.
    The Warforged in DnD, or the Androids in Pathfinder, or Reploids in Megaman X. You could have a soul that's bound to a robotic body. Sure, a person might have a hard time adjusting from a biotic body to an artificial one and vice versa, but that doesn't make it impossible or unlikely.
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    Not saying it isn't within SE's power, but they are likely avoiding very beastly like races because they would have to have their own set of armor made, while the other races you have to alter minimally to make it fit. Probably avoiding the extra work for now.
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    Instead of adding new races why not work on giving the existing races fur? Body hair? Better customization?

    Taller highlander like feral-felines for Miqo'te?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    You could easily make a robotic race that has a "soul", it's a pretty common trope in fantasy settings.
    The Warforged in DnD, or the Androids in Pathfinder, or Reploids in Megaman X. You could have a soul that's bound to a robotic body. Sure, a person might have a hard time adjusting from a biotic body to an artificial one and vice versa, but that doesn't make it impossible or unlikely.
    Take 2.2's use of Echo for example (kill Sahagin, is reborn using nearest Sahagin). Say your robot character dies and possesses the nearest living creature. Do you become a human thing again? or do you turn their entire body, consisting of flesh, bones and organs into your robotic body? OR, can you only possess what 'race' you are (this would break lore)? That's what I'm getting at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Take 2.2's use of Echo for example (kill Sahagin, is reborn using nearest Sahagin). Say your robot character dies and possesses the nearest living creature. Do you become a human thing again? or do you turn their entire body, consisting of flesh, bones and organs into your robotic body? OR, can you only possess what 'race' you are (this would break lore)? That's what I'm getting at.
    I don't see what you are talking about at all. Robot body has soul that's not complicated its no more requiring someone to possess anything nearby than random miqote deaths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IfritReborn View Post
    Instead of adding new races why not work on...
    I keep seeing this statement popup in this thread. I don't think anyone that's for this new race idea is demanding we get one right away, but much later in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
    I don't see what you are talking about at all. Robot body has soul that's not complicated its no more requiring someone to possess anything nearby than random miqote deaths.
    Do you remember the cutscene from 2.2 involving the Sahagin? Kill the one with the Echo and he took over the nearest Sahagin. For us, it would be similar. However, with a robot, that's when things get complicated. Imagine you are completely destroyed, beyond repair. Your soul possesses the nearest person so you can continue to exist. Now... do you take over the consciousness of that person (making you no longer a robot)? or do you replace everything that made them a human and make them a robot (flesh, bones and organs replaced)? or can you only possess what you are (if Allagan, then very limited supply, making them Padjal status)?

    That's what I'm getting at and why I'm saying it can't work for lore reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
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    You haven't seen the spirit possessing another race's body yet, but that certainly doesn't mean that it's not possible.

    And what would happen in this instance? That's a good question, that would be answered when/if it happened. It could work in any multitude of ways, either altering the new host's body, or not altering it at all.
    If I recall correctly, the last thing the Sahagin chief had was a bullet in his brain, by your logic the new Sahagin should've been the proud owner of one as soon as he was possessed. So clearly, the consciousness, or the soul, is the only thing that's transferred.

    Lore functions to make the world consistent. If the changes made to it are also consistent, then it's functioning perfectly as intended.
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    I gave multiple examples, so multiple 'logics' to take into consideration. That is just one example and if applied to us, we'd be nothing more than a gory mess.
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