Bard - they broke my job

[Warlyx]

Well don't hold your breath on the physical damage increase as MCH has that with hypercharge and rook turret.

They won't give you a piercing buff song due to DRG providing that.

2 jobs provide slashing debuff , NIN got it because in what happens when there is no WAR in party?

but what happens when there is no DRG? ....

SE answer : sucks to be you? :P

[Noira]

Pretty much atm lol.

[Lux_Rayna]

Ranger is that way ---->
The problem with BRD is too many ppl rolled ARC to be Legolas. All of the complaints about BRD have been rooted in Legolas syndrome since 1.0. If SE made a ranger job we wouldnt be hearing so much whine about the same ole deepz topic.

Brd is about utility and damage support. Its role is auxiliary rather than primary. A great bard makes a raid buttery smooth.

[Linadae]

My only gripe is how WEAK and useless sidewinder is. 60 second cooldown for an ability that only gets decent potentcy from having both dots up, and still is out damaged by a single empyreal arrow, or all the bloodletters you can use in its cooldown window. its a depressingly weak ability. why did they nerf it?

To keep us from playing pre-52 Bard. They wanted a clear line stating that Wander's minuet is what you're supposed to use and if you don't want to use it then you're bad and you should feel bad.

Which is why I no longer play bard and am currently looking for a new class to play. So far...nothing has interested me. Might wait till the next expansion and see if they come out with something that isn't Bow/Gun mage.

[RiisWolf]

I have this one friend who believes that applying DoTs on more than 2 targets and using iron jaws on them all is the best way to go cause then his OGCDs will reset more often.
I disagree cause it like a summoner who tries to apply all their DoTs without Bane, but only worst cause the BRD's dots are both 18 seconds long, you don't have time for that.

Who's more right? Me or the friend?

[Aiurily]

you. rod resets are strong, and multi dotting is more sustainable than quick nock spam

10char

[Ferrasper]

Ranger is that way ---->
The problem with BRD is too many ppl rolled ARC to be Legolas. All of the complaints about BRD have been rooted in Legolas syndrome since 1.0. If SE made a ranger job we wouldnt be hearing so much whine about the same ole deepz topic.

Brd is about utility and damage support. Its role is auxiliary rather than primary. A great bard makes a raid buttery smooth.

Ish, bard in this game is about both because if we were full support like that we wouldn't have bow skills.

[Snowaeth]

you. rod resets are strong, and multi dotting is more sustainable than quick nock spam

10char

I was promoting multidotting at first.
And yes this is more sustainable and in the long run isn't much lower dps. So for fights like A2 & A2S where the adds can live for a while and you won't have a break for your tp multi dotting is the way to go.

But during dungeon runs where the tank pulls big groups and these groups won't last too long and you get a moment to recover tp while running to the next pack.
Putting up dots on the highest hp target (which is not main target of the melee) then keeping dots going on it with IJ while spamming QN + RoD proc's is the way to go.

So both are not wrong, just should be used for different situations.

[Tharian]

Bow/Gun mage.

You know... I think this is the fundamental problem here... people are trying to force the Bard and Machinist to fill the same basic role as the Gunner from Final Fantasy X-2... when it seems that the Developers would prefer that the Bard and Machinist fill a role that more closely resembles the Gun Mage from the same game.

[yamochan]

well in the end its rly not what the developers want the class to be its what the player wants to play if the bowmage as it is does not suit someone he will reroll. if there are no classes that you like anymore players will wait for some changes if those changes dont come players will quit. its rly that simple actually ^^ guess why we lost a good lot of ppl already.
i for myself am putting up with the bowmage right now i dont like it and i dont like any other class cause well they are all the same now range wise (BLM, Bowmage, Gunmage and Dotmage) but i dont want to leave my raid hanging.
i dont know how many other ppl will do the same ...