Bard - they broke my job

[yamochan]

well i favor skill speed after u reached a certain crit point cause even if crit now also give you more crit dmg its always good to get ur shots out faster or at all thx to our casttime.

also the determination nerf doesnt affect us very hard but once u turn off ur WM it might be a problem wich is the reason i dont focus too much on that.

so its pretty much a good mix off all 3 stats for me and that works pretty good actually.

[Dunncan]

I was looking for something like we have on Drg topic. Dervy and the other found a pretty accurate Weight, like 0.13xx for det and 0.16xx for crit. This way, we can not only say wich is better, but maximaze the overall gear gain.

Guess I'll just ask there, ty for your time

[yamochan]

well this is not exactly the how to play bard thread its more like stuff works like it does and we hate it or well some dont hate it for whatever reason thread. ^^

rly i dont know how you can not hate it right now but hey everyone has an opinion.

[Inferiae]

I haven't tested, but since now we have cast times and no auto attack, plus SkS affects DoTs, I'd say Crit>SkS>Det.

[yamochan]

oh did they finally fix that? it was bugged at the start someone posted a video for this around page 40 or so. at that time SkS didnt work at all for the dots. has anyone tested it since then?

[aabe]

oh did they finally fix that? it was bugged at the start someone posted a video for this around page 40 or so. at that time SkS didnt work at all for the dots. has anyone tested it since then?

It's not that it's bugged, there's a formula out that's been very well tested thanks to Dervy. (1+(skillspeed-354)*0.000138)
The video you're talking about is Krietor's, he puts on accessories to get up to about 450 skillspeed. If you use this formula and punch in that number it's 97*.000138 = .013386 is the dot damage multiplier. You take this and multiply by how much damage your dot is doing, Krietor's was doing around 200, 200 * .013386 = 2.6.
It's not that SkS was ever bugged, more that the results from stacking skillspeed are so small that you'd need huge amounts of it or huge damage on dots to notice a difference.

[Zophar]

crit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>det>sksp

Mind you, the stats on both our 210 bows do leave me wondering which is better.

one has tons of det, low sksp. Other has tons of sksp, and low crit. wat2do o?

Something I wonder as a bard is: Should we always take a crit item over a non crit item, regardless of it's weight due to crits relationship with bard? ( if such an item even exists ...)

Dervi help us ><

I've actually wondered about this. They nerfed the values of det on auto attacks, which is moot in WM anyway, however, the amounts of det popping up on gear now is like, double or more from what we had before. I mean, people are actually hitting the 700 mark on det. Assuming det was only changed on Auto attack, and nothing else, I'm kind of inclined to assume det is king. I dunno. Thoughts?

[Bman10119]

My only gripe is how WEAK and useless sidewinder is. 60 second cooldown for an ability that only gets decent potentcy from having both dots up, and still is out damaged by a single empyreal arrow, or all the bloodletters you can use in its cooldown window. its a depressingly weak ability. why did they nerf it?

[SlyRoyale]

My only gripe is how WEAK and useless sidewinder is. 60 second cooldown for an ability that only gets decent potentcy from having both dots up, and still is out damaged by a single empyreal arrow, or all the bloodletters you can use in its cooldown window. its a depressingly weak ability. why did they nerf it?

Wanderer's Minuet +30% damage buff more or less makes the potency decrease hardly noticeable. After the boost is factored in, Sidewinder is about 130 potency vanilla, about 233 with one DoT up, and roughly 333 with both up.

[Noira]

Sidewinder is best used for burst moment no ?