Accuracy: Can it just go away?

[Syrehn]

No, it was healers. Took forever but I finally found the interview (or forum posts reposting the interview, anyway).

I believe that was confirmed as a mistranslation. See the direct quote here.


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Append:Nice find, but really just says more of the same, that Coil healers blew their minds when they took time to DD instead of healing and that Alexander Savage has been balanced around it.

No it really isn't more of the same because it doesn't say that savage is balanced around healer DPS. It actually specifically says it's not on this line:

Yes. Since all DPS jobs will be increasing up through level 60, it makes sense to have the white mage's DPS extend by a proportional amount as well. For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.

And this line:

This is also one of the reasons we decided to implement both a normal and savage version of Alexander. Once again, healer DPS was not included in the development team's calculation as it was for other jobs, so you should just think of healer DPS as a last way to get your overall party's DPS up to where it needs to be.

[Gilraen]

And this line:

This is also one of the reasons we decided to implement both a normal and savage version of Alexander. Once again, healer DPS was not included in the development team's calculation as it was for other jobs, so you should just think of healer DPS as a last way to get your overall party's DPS up to where it needs to be.

I read that line a little differently. It's oddly worded if they didn't intend to take healer DDing into account for Savage, there'd have been no reason to have the mode right at the start otherwise.

[Erim-Nelhah]

I read that line a little differently. It's oddly worded if they didn't intend to take healer DDing into account for Savage, there'd have been no reason to have the mode right at the start otherwise.

I read that as being something like this: "We've designed endgame raids (like Alex Savage) around players having a certain ilvl (200?). In doing so, we took the dps that the DDs+Tanks are expected be able to do during that fight, subtracted 10-15%, and used that to set the enrage timers. If your team's average ilvl is below the ilvl we designed the fight for, and your Tanks + DDs can't come up with the DPS required because of it, your healers may be able to dps as a last resort to make up the difference."

Make sense?

--Erim Nelhah

[Iagainsti]

You guys do realize that every final fantasy game had missed hits? It sucks, especially when you need that hit to connect, but it is an rpg fundamental. At least this game allows you to make it obsolete. It's not useless not pointless, it's part of what makes a game a game in the first place.

[Alistaire]

At least they shouldn't do this till they have some other secondary stat ideas to make up for it.

You guys do realize that every final fantasy game had missed hits? It sucks, especially when you need that hit to connect, but it is an rpg fundamental. At least this game allows you to make it obsolete. It's not useless not pointless, it's part of what makes a game a game in the first place.

Yeah, we should all be grateful this isn't one of those games that:

Has misses, but has no way to boost your accuracy thru gear. (iirc ff7 and probably others)
Has misses, has accuracy gear, but still leaves you able to miss. (ffxi)

We're in a better spot than both those situations at least.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

At least they shouldn't do this till they have some other secondary stat ideas to make up for it.



Yeah, we should all be grateful this isn't one of those games that:

Has misses, but has no way to boost your accuracy thru gear. (iirc ff7 and probably others)
Has misses, has accuracy gear, but still leaves you able to miss. (ffxi)

We're in a better spot than both those situations at least.

Crap is still crap. Its best to take it out before it gets too smelly.

I don't see how you can "miss" against huge monsters we fight anyways.

What are we...

[Arashmin]

Best solution would be to have it scale with iLvl and no longer be a secondary, IMO.

[Alistaire]

Best solution would be to have it scale with iLvl and no longer be a secondary, IMO.

That would be a great fix! ...then the game would still need other ideas for secondary stats; there's too little variety in gear as is.

[Parapluies]

Let's remove everything in this game and make this a facebook game =\
Everything is unfun =\

[Iagainsti]

@allistaire ffxi ^^ nothing worse than popping your 2hr and having it miss attacks(last ditch mighty strikes comes to mind), and ppl here complain about missing an an 1/3 of a rotation #getagrip