Why should I be excited for Grind Parties?

[Xenor]

Leves are not a bad form of sp, neither is grinding, your just too lazy.

In the 40s perhaps, but like local leves the completion bonus for the low leves is terrible and that's where the bulk of your SP comes from in a leve.

Just out of curiosity do you like playing with other people?

I am still trying to wrap my head around the MMOSoloist and the point of it-

Perhaps you like to raid in groups or whatever. I am just trying to understand.

Always. Which is why I can't stand the new solo based leve system. It's fine having some solo content like that but they didn't really replace it with anything yet. They did say there would be a dry period for a couple of patches after 1.18 before other levelling methods are implemented. I'll wait until then to rank up LNC and MRD to 50. If you look hard enough you'll find the post and see what cool group based levelling is coming. Grinding is not fun.

[Irana]

In the 40s perhaps, but like local leves the completion bonus for the low leves is terrible and that's where the bulk of your SP comes from in a leve.

Lol what? Completing a leve at max star at any rank gives you anywhere from 3k to 5k multiply that by 8 , the amount of leves you get each reset and time in the factor that you can do this in an hour and a half or less and you are looking at a steady 30k to 40k each reset BY DOING JUST LEVES.

I been doing this with all my jobs since...last patch and I cant believe how fast it goes.

[Xenor]

Lol what? Completing a leve at max star at any rank gives you anywhere from 3k to 5k multiply that by 8 , the amount of leves you get each reset and time in the factor that you can do this in an hour and a half or less and you are looking at a steady 30k to 40k each reset BY DOING JUST LEVES.

I been doing this with all my jobs since...last patch and I cant believe how fast it goes.

Perhaps you could inform me of this awesome strategy for soloing leves on 5 stars then. At 24 rank 30 leves were a pain in the ass even on 1 star and the reward for completion was about 1.5k. I then went to do some rank 20 leves where 3 star was death and 2 stars resulted in a completion bonus of 1-1.5k.

This is an old post from Yoshi about ranking up. This is what I am looking forward to.

Hi, this is Producer/Director Yoshida.

In regards to the questions cropping up about what will be done to party content now that leves are being made for solo play, we are thinking about the below for the future of FFXIV.
(Keep in mind that these are just examples and we’ll be adding unique new features and upgrading them.)

Casual Party Content
•Behest
•Public dungeons
•Instanced dungeons
•Variety of defense battles/Chocobo escort-related features

We are planning to make adjustments to behest to make it more of a completion-type battle. We plan on improving Behest in stages beyond its current form.

Party Content
•Hunting NMs
•Beast tribe settlement battles
•Instanced raid battles

End-game content
Along with PvP, we are also envisioning a large-scale PvE, but since we are not really at the stage where we can release information, I’d appreciate it if you just take this as "They're gonna do it!!" for now.

For soloing as well, we are planning to increase the amount of content that can be enjoyed constantly while placing emphasis on quests and leves, being mindful to maintain a balance between the two.

In the future, I would like to keep on enhancing the experience point gains through quest completion and exp. parties in public fields. This is because at the very least, I feel this is "normal." However, I think the work will continue up to about 1.20 until the game reaches a point where I think the balance of ranking up methods is normal.

I wanted to mention this in the letter, but from patch 1.18 we will begin reforms to remove the current feeling that players are being bound to specific play styles. Travel-wise anima is a bit hard to touch on right now (as I've referenced in another thread), but we will be making edits to the return costs and surplus system in the same fashion. Especially in regards to the feeling that a loss will be incurred if you don't do leves every day, we are looking into implementing a type of ticket system that will let you store them up, and heading into 1.19 we will be starting the specification edits of this. (I will talk about the details of this in the letter following the release of patch 1.18.)

I deeply apologize for the current lack of content and focus on the core fixes, but we have solidified our plans, so please look forward to the future!

SOURCE: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post209336

[Irana]

Perhaps you could inform me of this awesome strategy for soloing leves on 5 stars then. At 24 rank 30 leves were a pain in the ass even on 1 star and the reward for completion was about 1.5k. I then went to do some rank 20 leves where 3 star was death and 2 stars resulted in a completion bonus of 1-1.5k.

This is an old post from Yoshi about ranking up. This is what I am looking forward to.



SOURCE: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post209336

I can 5 star leves on nanawa at r30 with both my con and thm with no problem... and I can SOMETIMES 3 or 2 star leves in bw and halatali with my 37 pug... maybe you need more skills? or the right skills for the right mobs? for example: make sure you have aura pulse for flying monsters? always have a skill that can stun? like leg sweep? Use defender? etc etc

[Xenor]

I can 5 star leves on nanawa at r30 with both my con and thm with no problem... and I can SOMETIMES 3 or 2 star leves in bw and halatali with my 37 pug... maybe you need more skills? or the right skills for the right mobs? for example: make sure you have aura pulse for flying monsters? always have a skill that can stun? like leg sweep? Use defender? etc etc

You're right I probably could have equipped a better set of skills but you shouldn't need an optimal setup from all 7 classes to be able to get good SP from leves. These are after all designed for casual play. My biggest issue with the Nanawa leves at 24 was those stupid imps using their special attack which will kill you. I couldn't even bring myself to do the Adamantine leve I had knowing it would be 20 minutes effort for 2k SP.

Point still remains that it is poor content for ranking up until the 40s. So is grinding. Give me regular defence battles, improved behests, dungeons designed for levelling, beast tribe raids and escort quests that Yoshi menioned. Much more fun way of levelling up than struggling through leves or grinding. The beauty of it is you can keep doing your leves and grinding, others can play in the way they want too.

[Madruk]

Perhaps you could inform me of this awesome strategy for soloing leves on 5 stars then. At 24 rank 30 leves were a pain in the ass even on 1 star and the reward for completion was about 1.5k. I then went to do some rank 20 leves where 3 star was death and 2 stars resulted in a completion bonus of 1-1.5k.

Don't do the 30 lev's at that level. The experience at the end scales directly from what level you are and not the tier of leve you are doing. You'll get the same bonus at the end doing a 5 star 20 lev at that level as you would a 5 star 30 at that level. Do 20's till 30-31 then do the 30 leves.

Mages have it much easier doing it, but I've been able to solo it on pretty much every class. All you really need is cure and second wind to survive some of the harder ones, which should take you all of a hour to get.

[Reika]

I'm failing to see how people are equating the lack of desire to camp and kill monsters over and over for hours to wanting to solo through an MMO.