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  1. #31
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    Ditto's Avatar
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    Echo Sindria
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfhaken View Post
    What DA nerf they do? Only one i remember is the DA ability to DA 3 skills if you where good.
    It was an indirect nerf. Before, there was a bug where if you used a skill with a long animation before a skill with a quick animation, a single Dark Arts would boost both of those hits.

    They fixed that though, and it indirectly nerfed us quite a bit.
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  2. #32
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    Gorlioliolio's Avatar
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    Shaggy Grant
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    BW increases attack speed which is different from SkSpeed. It's basically like MNK's GL or NIN's Huton. It increases the speed of your auto attacks and directly decreases your GCD but it doesn't increase your SkSpeed stat. So the DoTs shouldn't benefit from it at all.
    Cool thanks for info, gonna have to change my rotation slightly then. Hopefully closer to 960-70 with a bit more time on the dummy. Practice makes perfect right? Opener is the only part that really overwhelms, since you double ogcd damn near everything and need to do it quick and perfect to hit those numbers, after that most things line up and you only need to do it occasionally.
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  3. #33
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    Drtoxicmedica's Avatar
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    Tatsu Masumi
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio View Post
    Cool thanks for info, gonna have to change my rotation slightly then. Hopefully closer to 960-70 with a bit more time on the dummy. Practice makes perfect right? Opener is the only part that really overwhelms, since you double ogcd damn near everything and need to do it quick and perfect to hit those numbers, after that most things line up and you only need to do it occasionally.
    I would suggest just skipping the dummy for the most part after you have an idea of your rotation. Most fights are different in layout and require different approaches to skill usage. A Dummy parse doesn't always translate to what your dps for a certain fight will look like which is what matters I'm the big picture. 1k dps on a dummy is cool and all but doesn't really matter as much as your dps in an actually encounter. Unless you just wanna see what the class is capable of.
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  4. #34
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    Lord Housewife
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Drtoxicmedica View Post
    I would suggest just skipping the dummy for the most part after you have an idea of your rotation. Most fights are different in layout and require different approaches to skill usage. A Dummy parse doesn't always translate to what your dps for a certain fight will look like which is what matters I'm the big picture. 1k dps on a dummy is cool and all but doesn't really matter as much as your dps in an actually encounter.
    Well a dummy parse helps you with your rotation and helps you find the optimal rotation. Sure, things in a fight change, but as long as you have a general idea of what your rotation should be, you should be able to slide back into it at any given point. Furthermore, given that most of Alexander Savage is a dps check, maximizing your dps on all fronts is very important. It's not so much about the numbers you get on the dummy as much as it is about the numbers letting you know you're doing it right, if you get what I mean.
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  5. #35
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    Drtoxicmedica's Avatar
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    Tatsu Masumi
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LordHousewife View Post
    Well a dummy parse helps you with your rotation and helps you find the optimal rotation. Sure, things in a fight change, but as long as you have a general idea of what your rotation should be, you should be able to slide back into it at any given point. Furthermore, given that most of Alexander Savage is a dps check, maximizing your dps on all fronts is very important. It's not so much about the numbers you get on the dummy as much as it is about the numbers letting you know you're doing it right, if you get what I mean.
    Oh of course was just saying don't obsess over it to much. I've seen far to many people practice on a dummy for days only to wonder why they did so poorly in the actual encounter.
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  6. #36
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    Zephiroth's Avatar
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    Zephiroth Jenova
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LordHousewife View Post
    Full ilvl 190 on the left except legs which are 180, Eso Chest, and 180 slaying accessories. I have about 570 ~ crit.
    u have a eso chest? nice but u shouldnt talk about dps anymore .taking a chest over a weapon is a huge fail
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  7. #37
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    Zorthos Dominatus
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I can currently do 1.1k on savage Faust. He's kinda like a training dummy lol.
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  8. #38
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    Zorthos Dominatus
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Lord housewife... Name looks so familiar, are you on behemoth?
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  9. #39
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephiroth View Post
    u have a eso chest? nice but u shouldnt talk about dps anymore .taking a chest over a weapon is a huge fail
    we aren't dps. as someone said earlier the weapon only boosted their dps by 50, and hive weapon is enough for savage A1. (with damage to adds i was pushing 1.2k damage on faust, above 900 on faust himself.)

    get what your biggest upgrade is.
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  10. #40
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Even in terms of tankiness the chest isn't really superior to the weapon. You only gain a bit more VIT if you upgrade from the 180 chest to the 200 one instead of upgrading from Hive weapon to eso weapon. And the gain in def/mdef is laughable.

    Weapon is the biggest upgrade and the first everyone should buy. The increase in DPS is real and you still gain VIT too. As a tank you're still a damage dealing job, hitting things 100% of the time, like a DPS. Buying the weapon benefits more to your entire party than buying the chestpiece.
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