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  1. #11
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    The thing is... They said cash shop purchases would contribute to more money to build the game itself with. So far though, we're still only getting the "hardware this" and "network that" and "too small team, too difficult to do" excuses, just like before the cash shop. While at the same time, we're seeing items we already paid for with our subscriptions making it into the cash shop so that people can pay for them again, even more so when they're not account-wide but only for one character. With the actual in-game content being reuses, recycles, rehashes, reskins (1.0 -> 2.0, 2.0 -> 3.0).

    I'm all for making certain older items available again / for newer players, but I like this direction less and less with each subsequent new entry in the cash shop.
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  2. #12
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    Lyaha Mathis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Before when old event stuff could be bought ingame for gil players complained that New players that missed it last year could get it basicly for free and that the rarity of the items was gone and wished people that missed it would not be able to get them, as once it's done it's done.

    See the pattern here? No matter how you do it, there will always be people complaining that it's not the right way.
    So.. they did the exact same thing people were angry about.. but are making money off it now?

    This solves nothing and only brews anger and well.. money for SE.
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  3. #13
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    As someone who has all of the moonfire faire stuff, I give exactly 0 damns about who else has it. The fact that you couldn't get it during 11 months of the year made it rare enough for me. I don't need to be a special snowflake.
    Plus, what fun is the bomb dance when your recruited friends can't dance with you?

    Also "here's a race that hails from fantasy japan. No you may not dress your new character in a yukata unless you pay us additional money."

    Also also, we did not get them for free, we paid our sub for that event month like everyone else is paying for their sub this month, and making old content available requires no additional effort on SE's part.


    If they want to put them in the cash shop, put them up for the other 10-11 months of the year and take them down a month before the event starts.
    That way they can get money from the impatient folk who hate their own money, but aren't actively taking things out of the game to sell them back to us.
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    Last edited by Roda; 08-07-2015 at 03:48 AM.

  4. #14
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    The thing is... They said cash shop purchases would contribute to more money to build the game itself with. So far though, we're still only getting the "hardware this" and "network that" and "too small team, too difficult to do" excuses, just like before the cash shop.
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  5. #15
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Honestly, it's not that big of a deal to new players... like it really isn't. If they're new, they have nothing to go on as far as it being disrespect towards them lol. That's purely a perspective upon players already playing being reflected upon a hypothetical new player that doesn't exist. Returning players, well this is the unfortunate outcome of missing limited time events. I'm assuming the event is different this year, so it falls upon SE to decide what to do about the rewards, bottomline. It's just how things work. You aren't here to do something, you run the risk of NEVER getting it again (or in this case, paying for it if you want it).

    The ideal situation would certainly be that the old seasonal rewards be made avail in both the games seasonal events AND the cash shop (in case people want it but missed the event), but it's their decision on that.
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  6. #16
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Consider if you will that they could easily just NOT make it available, and those who missed out are SOL. . . SE retains credibility for the simple fact that they said LONG ago that the cash shop would never be for necessary-for-gameplay things (and no, Retainers are STILL optional). Do you NEED the bomb dance? No. Do you WANT the bomb dance? If yes, then buy it. If you missed out or you weren't around for it, sorry to hear that. But they're at least providing an option instead of just saying "too bad, you should've been here for it."

    Enough with these threads calling shame upon SE. They're not going to do everything right the first time or do it when YOU (yes, YOU personally) want it. But they DO listen. And they DO try to work things in. If I had more time, I'd happily compile a list of things the player community wanted, asked for, WAS PATIENT FOR, and got. So shame on you if you're impatient and demand instant gratification from people who are already being pretty reasonable (reasonable, NOT perfect and instant) in giving their customers what they want.
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  7. #17
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    ...is nice and all, but unless you're in Europe or play on a current "EU" server, it'll have no effect on you. And I'm saying that as a European. The server stress, data size, etc issues will still be the same (unless they're actually upgrading all the hardware and which we don't know about).
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  8. #18
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I was really hoping to get the bomb dance emote this year. This is really disappointing.
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  9. #19
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    Lyaha Mathis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Other mmo's managed to do this without the need for cash shops, guess what the subs are suppose to pay for that.

    The fact that we had to wait 2-3 years for this in the first place is absolutely disgusting, remember the Ninja mudra problem? Better "Git Gud" eh?

    What's next "Git Rich"?
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  10. #20
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    KokonoeAiyoko's Avatar
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    Pomf-pomf Footahnaree
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    Balmung
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    The option is nonsense for a pay to play MMO. This isn't a F2P game. If they want to add it ot the cash shop, fine, but make it obtainable in-game like how FFXI was.
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