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  1. #51
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    justinjarjar's Avatar
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    Kitty Monsk
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeeDeggiThePunisher View Post
    It's also fair game to criticize. Some of you people don't realize this is a forum for discussion, not a circle jerk.
    What is wrong with these comments? They state exactly what they think that cosmetic is not P2W or that they think it is a fair system with even an explanation of why they think it is.
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  2. #52
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    Karona Vivra
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    @Gunspec Your post sound pretty ignorant. Do you even know how business works? These cash shop items supplement the companies revenue so that they can continue to make money with little to no effect on the paying customer. Without this, you would see increase in subs prices and no one wants that. I would say that SE has done right by its community especially after 1.0 disaster. 2-3 bucks for some ingame shirts is hardly greed.
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  3. #53
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    Airget Lamh
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    i'd say, look Timmy a subscription fee is usually 14.99 a month, maybe you haven't played for 3 months so you didn't spend the 45 dollars that we spent playing the game. You gotta look at holiday items as perks for being subbed to the game if you miss an event, it's not all lost, if you truly want the item then pay for it.

    Keep in mind you only have one body so while those 6 options might look like 18 dollars in reality you only have to spend 3 dollars for the one you really want to use. Want the emote, another 2 dollars and finally both minions 10 dollars. That comes to 15 dollars, surprising number is it not? If you ignore the "need" to have every body just to have it then all you are paying to the mog station is a months sub for 2 minions, 1 emote and 1 body piece.
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  4. #54
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeeDeggiThePunisher View Post
    It's also fair game to criticize. Some of you people don't realize this is a forum for discussion, not a circle jerk.
    Am I not discussing why these items aren't the end of the world, instead of circlejerking that the cash shop is the worst thing to happen to FFXIV? Some people here would rather have the items removed permanently.

    And yes, SE is looking to make money. How evil of them. These items are literally the price of a bottle of water, if they were $10 ea. then sure complain.
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  5. #55
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Just a reminder that there were some items in FFXI that were released once for a special event and then were gone forever. Sure, they were vanity items, but you had NO option to obtain them. Never released as events, and only some were released as prizes later on.

    I for one am happy that you can purchase event items you missed. I also suspect that since the full set of gear was not released on Mog station, some of it will still be purchasable with gil in game.
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  6. #56
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    MeeDeggiThePunisher's Avatar
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    Sevro Barca
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinjarjar View Post
    What is wrong with these comments?
    The same thing that's wrong with comments stating their distaste for the cash shop. Nothing.
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  7. #57
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathander81 View Post
    @Gunspec Your post sound pretty ignorant.
    Why would a single outfit a month (or in most cases, a choker or earring) lead to an increase in subscription price? And the effect on the paying customer is already that art assets are removed and resold as DLC. Yoshida has spoke in great length about how the subscription model allows his team to accurately predict how much money they have to work with from a development angle. Not once have I read a statement suggesting that the mogstation actually redirects its money into the art design budget.

    It is a supplemental income for SE to be sure, but its implementation coincided with seasonal updates that were 80% refurbished art made into housing furniture, for housing wards which devs admit they don't have the appropriate resources to expand adequately. If the mogstation profits were being redistributed into servers for housing wards, I wouldn't complain, but that clearly isn't the case.

    And it's $3 for rings and $5 for shirts... all of which were free for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Am I not discussing why these items aren't the end of the world, instead of circlejerking that the cash shop is the worst thing to happen to FFXIV? Some people here would rather have the items removed permanently.

    And yes, SE is looking to make money. How evil of them. These items are literally the price of a bottle of water, if they were $10 ea. then sure complain.
    I'd rather the items remain free, not removed. And I'm not opposed to the idea of an item store. I've got the Y'da pet, and have been on the verge of buying slepnir more than once.

    The problem I see, is that holidays roll around, and the current selection of holiday items can be really weak. Valentine 2015 was what, just an earring? There was a barding from the quest, and some housing items, but no outfit for the year. Christmas 2014 was a 2nd santa outfit, but was missing the gloves from the promotional artwork. Compare that to Christmas 2013, when the snowman, santa, AND reindeer outfits were available simultaneously WITH a chocobo barding.

    Imagine if Halloween 2015 doesn't have an outfit, but instead has a little pumpkin ring to match the old choker and earring. Well, I'll still be running around with my free ghost costume (I wear it usually anyway), but it will still be the lamest holiday ever.

    Maybe I'd be less frosty if they kept TWO years of items available for free. That way they can do an off-year for costumes, and not leave newer players feeling left out.
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    Last edited by Gunspec; 08-07-2015 at 02:52 AM.

  8. #58
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    Eruca Fleuret
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    It's pretty nice that they're doing this, too bad they didn't add the sandals though. (Or at least, not yet?)
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  9. #59
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    Qadarin Mihata
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    Aymeric minion pls. Take my money.
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  10. #60
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    Edwin Li
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    If any emote is going to be a Cash shop exclusive it better be a...

    "Take my Gil!" Emote (aka /takemygil )
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