Something need to be done about BAD DPS.

[Welsper59]

That's all very true. No one is arguing that you have to min-max, though. You don't have to do any of that unless you're raiding savage as soon as it comes out. The whole "min-max" and "nobody can play perfect" argument keeps being used again and again to derail the main topic of discussion at hand by people who think that your sub fee allows you to be an ice mage, a voiceless bard, a full thrust DRG, a mudra-less NIN (and son on) and not get kicked from a group.

The argument about the "mandatory" min/max perspective that folks refer to comes up for reason. One thing about the internet, or forums specifically, is that most people do not specify details about what they are and are not referring to. The OP indirectly did based on the PLD in ShO comment, but most replies didn't (some of which just involved arguments against without noticing that little important bit of info from the OP). So why don't people do that? Well, a number of reasons. First and foremost is the literary skills and understanding of the English language. We're dealing with people that have problems with "your" and "you're". Then comes the fact that very few people are willing to read more than a few sentences from a post, much less bother to create one like that.

Apply these things to a given forum poster, and there's bound to be misunderstanding (or in some cases a direct understanding despite lack of information). Take it a step further and apply that mindset to people who play the game. You're going to encounter people who freak out that a WAR is doing more damage than a BRD or MCH at times due to ignorance on the part of the person freaking out. You're going to meet mouthbreathers that throw fits of rage that any player that happens to be undergeared is not dealing what they should at i190. Let's also not forget people that pop a vein because someone isn't giving 100% serious business output in a 4-man dungeon... including places like normal Sastasha. The fact they exist is reason enough for people to be cautious about others who do not express the little details that I mentioned. The cycle continues because of how we unfortunately are by nature, despite the general remedy being obvious to some of us.