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    I found this odd too, the rate at which we got red scrips was never the issue, it was how expensive the items/gear/favours were using tokens. All this change does now is allow us to grind slightly less. Because the cap remains the same but we're getting roughly twice the scrips per turn in, we hit that cap earlier in the week then have to sit around and do nothing for even longer.

    I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I was able to hit the cap on reset day last week, so this whole week I've just been catching turn in fish for next week. Now it seems my hoard will carry over to the week after that as well, so technically I don't need to fish red scrip fish anymore.

    Like the OP says, the issue was never how long it took us to get the scrips in the first place, it was the cost of items/gear/tools, which is partly a function of the low scrip cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
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    Crafting Scrips needed some adjustments. The material cost for most items was a terrible ratio for how many scrips it rewarded. You had things like morel salad or marron glace that only gave what, 4-5 scrips less than equips that took dissolvents and ingots?

    I'm also disappointed at the lack of adjustments to favors. The amount of time they require for one crafting material is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Crafting Scrips needed some adjustments. The material cost for most items was a terrible ratio for how many scrips it rewarded. You had things like morel salad or marron glace that only gave what, 4-5 scrips less than equips that took dissolvents and ingots?

    I'm also disappointed at the lack of adjustments to favors. The amount of time they require for one crafting material is ridiculous.
    I'll be honest, I haven't touched crafting at all since 3.0 started, so my complaints were purely from a gatherer's point of view. Based on what you said it sounds like they took the fact that crafting would benefit from receiving more scrips then applied it to everyone, but made no other adjustments. I'm all for getting more scrips per turn in, but I still think the whole system needs more adjustments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    I'll be honest, I haven't touched crafting at all since 3.0 started, so my complaints were purely from a gatherer's point of view. Based on what you said it sounds like they took the fact that crafting would benefit from receiving more scrips then applied it to everyone, but made no other adjustments. I'm all for getting more scrips per turn in, but I still think the whole system needs more adjustments.
    Capping gathering scrips honestly wasn't a big issue for me. You'd have to hit the nodes a total of 24 times over the course of 7 days. Capping it in one day would be the same as capping out your esotarics in one day. Crafting scrips on the other hand, you had a random turn in for each day, and the cost:reward ratio for most of the crafts were utterly skewed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    I think you'll find I am both.
    Just as much as I am a SCH main, derpgoon main, dork kngint main. Unless you're one of those people that don;t use their mains on profile so we have to take your words as it is (which honestly would go both ways then).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Just as much as I am a SCH main, derpgoon main, dork kngint main. Unless you're one of those people that don;t use their mains on profile so we have to take your words as it is (which honestly would go both ways then).
    Look to the left of my post. Clearly showing gathering class then if want check lodestone on the character, clearly both gathering and crafting classes shown as being some substantially leveled and others in the process of leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Look to the left of my post. Clearly showing gathering class then if want check lodestone on the character, clearly both gathering and crafting classes shown as being some substantially leveled and others in the process of leveling.
    Lets see. You have a 59 BTN, a lvl 58 FSH and a level 57 Miner. Oh and half your crafters are at level 50, with none above 51 at the time of your post.

    So, you do have some DOL/DOH levelled, but I'd say you don't actually know much/anything about the subject of the topic which this thread is about, which is about gathering favors.

    Look at your equipment. Can you even get 470 collectibility on adamantite with your non melded NQ lvl 55 gear?
    Have you collected red scrips yet even? No? Then you don't know anything about how long it takes aside from reading OTHER people's posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryNotes View Post
    Oh and half your crafters are at level 50, with none above 51 at the time of your post.
    I have had 2 crafts at level 51 for days now, way before posted in here. My response to scarebearz was pointing out a correction when she said I had no crafters or gatherers and now likewise same in response to you when you quoted my comment to scarebearz and got it wrong too so I am correcting you on your comment now also.

    Quote Originally Posted by tgoodner View Post
    Substantially leveled? Wouldn't that mean that everything is at 60?
    Substantially means close to 60 in my opinion else I would of said level capped if already 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Look to the left of my post. Clearly showing gathering class then if want check lodestone on the character, clearly both gathering and crafting classes shown as being some substantially leveled and others in the process of leveling.
    Right, so you're a gatherer and crafter just as much as I am a main for all DoW and DoM classes. If I am to take this at face value, none of your crafts are at level 56 to even do blue scrips, let alone red scrips. Most of us have both leveled at capps and are frustrated at how the red scrips tokens (that is, spending the red scrips itself) for gathering, and it's interaction with crafting (the favors). Actually none of your gatherers are level 60 either so I don't think you can even reach collectibility for red scrips reliable or favor nodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Look to the left of my post. Clearly showing gathering class then if want check lodestone on the character, clearly both gathering and crafting classes shown as being some substantially leveled and others in the process of leveling.
    Substantially leveled? Wouldn't that mean that everything is at 60?

    @Snugglebutt: I'm sure that you mean well, but I don't know if a person can have a clear perspective on the difficulty of the end-game crafting/gathering situation without having multiple classes at max level. Besides, you can't even unlock red scrips until you are at level 60. If you don't believe that I bring something to the table for this, please check my lodestone. All of my crafters/gatherers are completely and substantially leveled.

    The issue with red scrips is that people have to spend a weekly capped currency on a chance that they might obtain tokens to exchange for mats. I don't feel good about having a chance to get some of the 20 toekns needed to start a single craft. It's not worth my time.
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