new crafted gear useless for raid and so is materia V?

[Giantbane]

Leveling and gearing has and shouldn't have anything to do with your pricing. That's the cost of doing business. It's no different than a non-crafting class needing to level up and gear to get to endgame. etc, etc, etc

But competition DOES influence pricing. If there are only a few crafters that bothered to get to the point where they can actually make the item in question, they're free to set prices at whatever they feel like.

[Kaedan94]

But competition DOES influence pricing. If there are only a few crafters that bothered to get to the point where they can actually make the item in question, they're free to set prices at whatever they feel like.

Which is pure, unadulterated greed, and encourages gil buying.

An intelligent business sets prices at reasonable levels. Even monopolies (which is essentially what you are describing) set reasonable prices. DeBeers has a monopoly on diamonds, and they could set prices at "whatever they feel like" (and they do), but they realize (like the intelligent people they are) that if they set them too high, that nobody would buy them because they simply couldn't afford them.

Unfortunately, a lot of greedy crafters don't have that level of intellect. Or they do, and they are actually relying on people buying gil (sometimes because they sell the gil they get to RMT companies).

[Giantbane]

Which is pure, unadulterated greed, and encourages gil buying.

An intelligent business sets prices at reasonable levels. Even monopolies (which is essentially what you are describing) set reasonable prices. DeBeers has a monopoly on diamonds, and they could set prices at "whatever they feel like" (and they do), but they realize (like the intelligent people they are) that if they set them too high, that nobody would buy them because they simply couldn't afford them.

Unfortunately, a lot of greedy crafters don't have that level of intellect. Or they do, and they are actually relying on people buying gil (sometimes because they sell the gil they get to RMT companies).

And additional competition wouldn't mitigate this?

[Kaedan94]

And additional competition wouldn't mitigate this?

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

[Nadirah]

And additional competition wouldn't mitigate this?

But crafters don't want competition.

That's why they've had crafting turned into a pain in the ass in the first place.

[Kiyyto]

But crafters don't want competition.

That's why they've had crafting turned into a pain in the ass in the first place.

Oh I see, crafters invented the system right?
Lmao.

You and Kaedan94 will hit it off beautifully!

[Kiyyto]

Which is pure, unadulterated greed, and encourages gil buying.

An intelligent business sets prices at reasonable levels. Even monopolies (which is essentially what you are describing) set reasonable prices. DeBeers has a monopoly on diamonds, and they could set prices at "whatever they feel like" (and they do), but they realize (like the intelligent people they are) that if they set them too high, that nobody would buy them because they simply couldn't afford them.

Unfortunately, a lot of greedy crafters don't have that level of intellect. Or they do, and they are actually relying on people buying gil (sometimes because they sell the gil they get to RMT companies).

This guy, lmao.. This guy just used DIAMONDS as an example of reasonable pricing via monopolies?

WAHAHAHA!

Ok, the nonsense has now reached an intolerable level.
Crafting in HW makes more sense than this, lmao

"Monopolies are reasonable! Just look at diamonds."

[Kaedan94]

"Monopolies are reasonable! Just look at diamonds."

You might want to try reading again. I said that a real life monopoly (DeBeers) is MORE reasonable than the pricing in this game. While monopolies are illegal for a reason (hence why DeBeers operates where they are not), it's to illustrate that some of the crafters in this game are even worse.

DeBeers at least prices their goods at an affordable level (if still high and borderline unreasonable). Many crafters in FF price at outrageously not affordable levels... which encourages gil buying.

[Kiyyto]

You might want to try reading... At all?
You just tried to correct me for writing exactly what you've written, twice

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I'm sorry but you know nothing about diamonds, monopolies, or possibly crafting (if you think the diamond cartel is more reasonable than Ffxiv crafting)

But Ty for the giggles.

[Kaedan94]

(if you think the diamond cartel is more reasonable than Ffxiv crafting)

I never said anything of the sort... which is why you need to learn to read and comprehend.

What I said is that DeBeers, while charging ridiculous and exorbitant prices, at least prices their diamonds at the the edge of what is affordable. Some of the crafters in FF set prices BEYOND what is affordable, requiring people to buy gil if they want the item.

I never said they were reasonable... I said they were MORE reasonable than some of the pricing in FF. It's called a comparison, not an absolute.