So about the "warrior of darkness" [spoiler]

[SpookRooster]

If that's what they're going for, I really, really hope they make it extra special for DRK players.

If you've played the DRK line, you know who I'm referring to.

I think Esteem and the Warrior of Darkness represent two different kinds of darkness. Esteem, the violent darkness that creeps around in everyone, ready to be unleashed and the Warrior of Darkness; the champion of the second half of balance. I hope when we meet the Warrior of Darkness, he'll be a swell guy, but you'll have to fight anyways. Not necessarily because either Warrior is evil, but because the balance is thrown off.

[Mimiru_S]

Think it was before Garuda? I remember something about Cid's Garlean eye and seeing the Warrior of Light appear before him to give him...something. I don't remember the details, but I do remember the WoL appearing before him.

EDIT: From the FFWiki - "Cid defected from Garlemald with his shop-hands Biggs and Wedge, it is then he is given a pair of goggles by the the Adventurer who had brought them to him with the Echo."

EDITAGAIN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfgj...youtu.be&t=283 It couldn't have been symbolic. He flatout tells the player that he recognized you...which also makes no sense.

I don't know. To me, it just seems like that past vision of the WoL was from the WoL using the power of the echo in the present, as you, Cid and Alphinuad are headed towards Garuda. When he says he 'recognized' you, sounds more like he just sensed who the vision was. Minfilia said you can interact with the past, using the echo but can't ultimately change an outcome. Maybe he always ended up with the goggles, but the echo allowed us to show a vision of ourselves giving it to him. I could be completely wrong and probably am, lol. Just don't buy into the theory that the WoL is a primal.

[Kallera]

I think Esteem and the Warrior of Darkness represent two different kinds of darkness. Esteem, the violent darkness that creeps around in everyone, ready to be unleashed and the Warrior of Darkness; the champion of the second half of balance. I hope when we meet the Warrior of Darkness, he'll be a swell guy, but you'll have to fight anyways. Not necessarily because either Warrior is evil, but because the balance is thrown off.

I think that best description of what you eventually face in the drk storyline is a jungian shadow, given form by your interaction with the DRK soulstone.

While this doesn't rule out doppelgangers, time travel, clones, or alternate universe "you", The warrior of darkness is a chosen person, not a piece of your psyche. I doubt he'd know anything, save what we actually did.

Which would be quite the funny misunderstanding if he happened to echo a DRK during "declaration of blood", and thinking we do that all day.

[Frederick22]

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Sorry but you are wrong it cople of things, You misunderstood lots of things, also you should check the comments of the pages before you before tring to write it beacuse it was already being discused.


1- you need to do drk beacuse you have no idea of what you talking
2 - the GC wol is the default was, so yes he is me and you, is everyone, the wod is gonna be our oposite. Like the GC represents all the wols, that orther dark hyur is the one that represents all wods
3 - Who said Zodiark is dead?. "So our god might be reborn" That doesnt mean nothing. Zodiark is very well alive, the ascians are the prove. You think we would be alive if Hydaelyn would be dead? I just think Zodiark is like on an slumber.
4 - That was a echo vision. We have evidence enought that he is not a primal. Common mortal, not. He is something totaly different.
5 - You misundertood the thing of "restoring the balance". The ascian ceary dont care any balance, our power represents a great danger to their plans, this balance they spoke of was on bringing someone of our equivalent power, aka the wod. There no such thing of a misbalance

[Alberel]

Sorry but you are wrong it cople of things, You misunderstood lots of things, also you should check the comments of the pages before you before tring to write it beacuse it was already being discused.


1- you need to do drk beacuse you have no idea of what you talking
2 - the GC wol is the default was, so yes he is me and you, is everyone, the wod is gonna be our oposite. Like the GC represents all the wols, that orther dark hyur is the one that represents all wods
3 - Who said Zodiark is dead?. "So our god might be reborn" That doesnt mean nothing. Zodiark is very well alive, the ascians are the prove. You think we would be alive if Hydaelyn would be dead? I just think Zodiark is like on an slumber.
4 - That was a echo vision. We have evidence enought that he is not a primal. Common mortal, not. He is something totaly different.
5 - You misundertood the thing of "restoring the balance". The ascian ceary dont care any balance, our power represents a great danger to their plans, this balance they spoke of was on bringing someone of our equivalent power, aka the wod. There no such thing of a misbalance

I don't think anyone is in a position to conclusively say anything on any of those points yet so I think stating anyone is outright wrong is a little premature until we have more information.

I will point out though that Elidibus says that "equilibrium must needs be restored" and equilibrium means balance. The entire light and darkness duality we have in the game so far is very clearly based on FFIII and the introduction of the WoD only confirms that so it is very very likely that the issue of the 'balance' is going to be important.

We still don't know what exactly the Ascians were trying to get us to do; all we know is that we've deviated from the path they hoped to lead us down and are now a liability in their plans. We have no reason to believe the balance of light and dark isn't in the Ascians' interests to maintain. Elidibus also seems to have a different, possibly less destructive, agenda to the others so of all of them he would be the one I would expect to be concerned about balance.

[Frederick22]

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He means that beacuse there is no one with our same power, thats why the WoD shows up. He is someone that has the power to challenge us, withouth the WoD he would become an unstopable force that will eventually end the ascians plans.

I didnt said nothing about Elidibus's plans, I have see cleary enought that the ascians arent playing like a party, I would think that the orther Ascians dont care how many destruction and death needs to be so Zodiark would rise again and that Elidibus sees that there a much well and peacefull solution.

[SpookRooster]

Sorry but you are wrong it cople of things, You misunderstood lots of things, also you should check the comments of the pages before you before tring to write it beacuse it was already being discused.

1- you need to do drk beacuse you have no idea of what you talking
2 - the GC wol is the default was, so yes he is me and you, is everyone, the wod is gonna be our oposite. Like the GC represents all the wols, that orther dark hyur is the one that represents all wods
3 - Who said Zodiark is dead?. "So our god might be reborn" That doesnt mean nothing. Zodiark is very well alive, the ascians are the prove. You think we would be alive if Hydaelyn would be dead? I just think Zodiark is like on an slumber.
4 - That was a echo vision. We have evidence enought that he is not a primal. Common mortal, not. He is something totaly different.
5 - You misundertood the thing of "restoring the balance". The ascian ceary dont care any balance, our power represents a great danger to their plans, this balance they spoke of was on bringing someone of our equivalent power, aka the wod. There no such thing of a misbalance

1 - I did do drk. My profile says 59, but it hasn't updated it a while. I finished that job story entirely.
2 - We didn't fully see the Warrior of Darkness, but from behind, he looks no different from the CG Warrior of Light. That's going to be some weird shit for the non gilsellers who stuck with the default design if he really just copies the "Warrior of Light" from trailers. If the Warrior of Light is really meant to look like derplander and Elidibus sends Warrior of Darkness over, we'd have to keep him away from everyone else to avoid confusion for the people who didn't make a new character. Then again, I guess "Warrior of Light" is currently wearing the 60 dragoon armour? But we'll just have to see what Square does with WoD.
3 - "So our god might be reborn" implies Zodiark is dead. What else would it mean? We've seen that an Ascian's power is no match for Warrior of Light's. If Zodiark were reborn, they might be evenly matched.
4 - Yes, maybe something else. Something much more dangerous.
5 - Of course it represents a danger to their plans - Warrior of Light completely spanks the Ascians every time they fight. Even 13 primals at once couldn't defeat the Warrior of Light and just simply doing whatever destroyed the wall Midgardsormr built to block Hydaelyn's blessing. Poor Warrior of Darkness might be obliterated, but what else do the Ascians have against a clearly unbalanced universe?

[Frederick22]

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Not the first time I have to deal with ppl that wants to believe their own theoryes with total lack of evidence, Im not gonna start a show to debate on what are you wrong. So ok believe what you want

[Mholito]

Not the first time I have to deal with ppl that wants to believe their own theoryes with total lack of evidence, Im not gonna start a show to debate on what are you wrong. So ok believe what you want

I'm sorry! But this has to be said:
This is very much a case of the pot calling the kettle back. You are always presenting your interpretation of things as if it was the undeniable truth, while denying anyone else's interpretation solely because they differ from yours. Your assumptions are just as likely to be wrong as anyone else's. Please stop acting like you know more than the rest of us, because you DON'T!

[WyrahFhurrst]

Not the first time I have to deal with ppl that wants to believe their own theoryes with total lack of evidence, Im not gonna start a show to debate on what are you wrong. So ok believe what you want

I'm sorry, but you are being very rude, not just with that derogatory "quote," but with your comment on it. You yourself propose less than excellent ideas, many of which I simply cannot understand due to the poor language they are written in. You really shouldn't put others down simply because they decide to speculate, which this forum is for (which I believe you've been told by others previously). What evidence do you have that makes you so sure the character that looks very much so like the CG Midlander, is anything but? I myself thinks he looks quite similar to him and would be quite interested in finding out if the two are one and the same. So please, keep your insults to yourself.