Loot system suggestions, thoughts, and your opinion!

[sirDarts]

I quite like your suggestion, though I would make it simpler:
NEED - only on upgrades, so anything that's ABOVE your current iLvl for the current slot.
GREED - anything else

Btw, you can edit your post to avoid the 1000char limit.

[Fahad]

I quite like your suggestion, though I would make it simpler:
NEED - only on upgrades, so anything that's ABOVE your current iLvl for the current slot.
GREED - anything else

Btw, you can edit your post to avoid the 1000char limit.

thank you ^^ im a complete noob when it comes to forums, sorry ^^;

[amihavingfunyet]

NEED - only on upgrades, so anything that's ABOVE your current iLvl for the current slot.

What if I want to farm items for glamour? I'll just have to put on lower ilvl gear and actually make the run slower.
Or what if lower ilvl gear is actually better (BRD WoD chest for example)?

Opinion: The system is fine as is.

[sirDarts]

What if I want to farm items for glamour? I'll just have to put on lower ilvl gear and actually make the run slower.
Or what if lower ilvl gear is actually better (BRD WoD chest for example)?

Opinion: The system is fine as is.

So make it that you can only NEED on stuff that's above the highest iLvl in your possession that you can use.
If you are going for glamour, you should have the same chance on getting it as everyone else = GREED.

[amihavingfunyet]

So make it that you can only NEED on stuff that's above the highest iLvl in your possession that you can use.
If you are going for glamour, you should have the same chance on getting it as everyone else = GREED.

I sure know I would run even less content with pugs if this would be in the game. Why would I even queue as healer, if I can't even roll need on healer items. And what about my second point? WoD came out quite a bit after Poetics/FCoB, it's not impossible to have either i130 chest. But the WoD chest still is better thanks to secondary stats. Am I now out of luck even though it is a clear upgrade for me?

[sirDarts]

I sure know I would run even less content with pugs if this would be in the game. Why would I even queue as healer, if I can't even roll need on healer items. And what about my second point? WoD came out quite a bit after Poetics/FCoB, it's not impossible to have either i130 chest. But the WoD chest still is better thanks to secondary stats. Am I now out of luck even though it is a clear upgrade for me?

Why would you need items that are not an upgrade? For glamour? Glamour is just as "big" of a reason as gearing alts, or glamouring alts, or anything else = GREED.

As for the iLvl being weird sometimes, yes it is and should be fixed, but that's another issue.

[karateorangutang]

I sure know I would run even less content with pugs if this would be in the game. Why would I even queue as healer, if I can't even roll need on healer items. And what about my second point? WoD came out quite a bit after Poetics/FCoB, it's not impossible to have either i130 chest. But the WoD chest still is better thanks to secondary stats. Am I now out of luck even though it is a clear upgrade for me?

This would be a question of ethics then. If healer A needs the body to actually improve his character then yes... i believe he should have first dibs. If your both above in ilvl then it's glamour piece. It would be better if it was three tiered IMO

NEED: below ilvl of item, current class
GREED: Same class as item
Tertiary: Anyone

[justinjarjar]

This would be a question of ethics then. If healer A needs the body to actually improve his character then yes... i believe he should have first dibs. If your both above in ilvl then it's glamour piece. It would be better if it was three tiered IMO

NEED: below ilvl of item, current class
GREED: Same class as item
Tertiary: Anyone

Wah? If it is an upgrade for me why should I not need? Ilvl is not everything. If that is where you guys are coming from cannot support this at all, secondary stat mix ups on highest ilvl makes some of the better gear choices in this game. Are you guys to lazy to look at stats?

Edit: yes 10 or 20 ilvl could work with the current system to help need abuse in leveling dungeons (most people still just pass unless they want glam) since gear does not sell for much and very few people dysynth much.

[sirDarts]

Wah? If it is an upgrade for me why should I not need? Ilvl is not everything.

90+% of the time iLvl is everything.
10-% it's F'd up and it needs fixing, like for example the current i150 white items being WAY worse than the i148 green items. Makes absolutely no sense. Also used Materia should be reflected in iLvl.
~0.1% you just want a different secondary stat on an item that's basically the same strength - deal with greed.

[karateorangutang]

Wah? If it is an upgrade for me why should I not need? Ilvl is not everything. If that is where you guys are coming from cannot support this at all, secondary stat mix ups on highest ilvl makes some of the better gear choices in this game. Are you guys to lazy to look at stats?

OK then, how about put a 10 ilvl buffer on it. Sidegrades are almost 100% of the time within that buffer.