FC Chest just gets raded, and GMs can do nothing.

[joshdavis271]

Ok leaving the chest options open is like giving the keys to the thief saying here, steal all my valuables, it is the free company's responsibility to see that it never happens or else its assumed to be shared assets which is chest items are to those with the permissions. It is not SE's job to handle free company drama such as this, the OP has learned from this and has fixed the problem as it should be being as we have the tools to prevent these things.

[Nyerieri]

Again I think the biggest point missed here is that the chest is a shared resource between members in the free company. If you give everyone access to the chest, be prepared for the consequences. You cannot say square did not give you the resources to stop this. Also, again, I remind you there is no possible way for square to do anything about this even if they wanted to. It could of been an inside scheme talked about outside of game. The person scheming this gives one side of the story to the GM and the thief gives another. If they chose the wrong person, and lets say ban them, that would just be outrageous and I think you would see a lot more type of threads if square started banning people over having to make a decision like this.

[Makeda]

Why did you not limit access to the tab with the airship parts so it can be accessed only by the fc crafters?

Basically this. I ran a guild in WoW for years... and the above was just obvious.

That said, we also kept one fully open tab that we dumped 'junk' into as bait... and well, to get rid of. After the first time we had a recruit try to loot our guild bank, that was what I did - I just made it easier for the next one to do it... because I've still not seen a guild bank that was actually used for important stuff in any MMO... Even opening up a tab for looters... I had to task an officer every few months to vendor all the junk... and often all my officers would come up with excuses or suddenly be on vacation and I'd have to do it... and that continued even after I put policies in restricting what people were allowed to abandon into the guild bank...

When I was running a guild in Guild Wars 2... I just set the whole guild bank to open and put up a note saying "anything dropped in there is intended to be looted"...
- nobody took anything, and after the bank fileld up, we just ignored its existence...
- sometimes its easier to have a place to dump stuff you don't want to sell for whatever reason... and let some other person take and sell it if they are so inclined.

With a concept like FC-crafting... if mats have to be shared across crafters - it seems wise to have a tab locked to all the established crafters, and another tab that is the 'drop it here to get rid of it' 'bait' tab.
- If you're actually in a guild that is using that guild bank... and not just 'storing valuable stuff for a rainy day that never occurs'...
I see this a lot... highly locked down guild banks, that have items in them, that are often 1-2 expansions or tiers out of date... but its "important stuff"... like the place is run by the cast of one of those hoarder reality TV shows...
- If you don't use it within a month or so... you should probably just vendor it... that rainy day ain't coming.

[micropanther7]

I like how the general theme in this thread is "fuck you." So, OP, I will sympathize with you. Sometimes it really sucks when people are allowed to walk away with crap like this. Even though you can prove and provide all the evidence, GMs let this stuff go. There's no reason something can't be done about this. For every person here that posted saying "you let it happen", I hope something bad happens to them and when it comes time for us to hear their complaints and stories of being done wrong, we can say "life's rough, deal with it."

I know right?! It's not even the OP's fault! Sadly OP, they won't do anything, it's a real douchebag thing to do but your FC Leader made a mistake, as people have already mentioned :/ Just be glad it wasn't anything really valuable, and your FC Leader should check the settings and have a vetting period for new people.

This is the fourth thread I've seen on the forums where an FC has been "robbed." In one case an Officer gave normal "Members" the ability to "Promote/Demote." *snip*

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the default setting to allow everyone all access? If so, maybe the default should be view only, might cut down on these type of thefts (I say might because people are still bound to make mistakes with chest access settings :/ )

[Nyerieri]

I know right?! It's not even the OP's fault! Sadly OP, they won't do anything, it's a real douchebag thing to do but your FC Leader made a mistake, as people have already mentioned :/ Just be glad it wasn't anything really valuable, and your FC Leader should check the settings and have a vetting period for new people.

I stick with my original post that I have no remorse for a free company that was formed 9/18/2013. The leader should of knew better by now to set more ranks with varied permissions, depending on what he wanted accomplished. By the way, no one ever said that to the OP, it's just at the end of the day it is the free company leaders fault for not setting the ranks correct since 2013

[Quinna]

I didn't read through all of this and I'm really sorry to hear that happened to you but I'd like to share something I saw today.

I was in Limsa today at the grand company hub and I noticed a Level 1 character at the Free company chest. After a few minutes I saw a FC tag pop on him.. a few minutes later it was gone. Then another.. and another.. I passed the info along to all my LS channels with the name because it was instantly clear what was going on. After about 10 minutes he was gone. I have no idea how long he was there originally.

Def keep your boxes locked guys and put some thought into who you invite. Blind invites are inviting this behavior.

[Neuflune]

Caution must be observed at all times by the FC master. Personally I assigned the least access to the New Member rank, I allowed them access to tab 1 of the FC chest and notify the members that only non-valuables are to be put there (cheap leather for crafting, chocobo food excluding Thav Onion, that stuff).

However, I do agree that SE needs to do something about the FC system. Our previous FC was run by brothers who kicked everyone out about a month after we purchased and furnished the house. The plot purchase was about evenly shared by the senior members at that time, and the furnishings were done mostly by the senior members and not the brothers who ran the FC. The FC master is the only member of that FC now (his brother left) and uses it as if it was his private house. SE didn't do anything about it because of the FC rules "the master can do whatever he wants, etc"... we have since formed our own FC and build our own house, but it still sucks that the other FC master is running around as if nothing happened and did not even apologize to the members that he kicked.

[Narukuchan]

Hmm I've heard of this happening a lot and honestly the best thing you can do is learn from your mistakes and ensure IF said person(s) remain on the server, that they get a reputation for being someone who steals from FC's before doing a runner. It is technically up to the FC leader to ensure that new and trial members have limited access to the chest especially. I'm a FC leader myself (on my other character this is just my alt XD) and anyone I invite is given the lowest rank and only viewing access.

Should they need/want something they can ask either myself or my SiC. But yeah hopefully you avoid having this re-occurring in the future.

[Nyerieri]

Snip.

You have complete discretion over what free company you join. I assume you donated towards that house, no one told you that you HAD to donate (and if they did, you could of simply found a new free company). Square was completely right by saying the master can do whatever they please with the free company. Guess why? it is theirs. They have complete control over it. Take caution when joining one and find out who is exactly leading it.

[joshdavis271]

The situation does suck, there will be those few people who would kick people just for the lols or whenever they get what they want from you IE a house, however, SE should not get involved With FC politics, and yes the master can do what he wants, he is the master after all, though I would not wanna associate with this particular person for he would prolly screw other poor souls over as well.