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  1. #71
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Then what was your point in mentioning the enmity meter? Cause you kinda go off subject after that.
    Also another important factor. We don't know the new stat weights. We know DET has been standardized which throws out the previous lvl 50 stat weights with that for a start. How effective is SKS for x class? Is crit better for MNKs than DET now? Until the calculations are done all we can do is try it out, stack x secondary. check results. switch to Y secondary, chack and compare. If SKS is optimal for MNK for example, your floating damage hits would be lower than stacking DET, but the overall DPS may be higher, something that you cannot check without outside assistance.

    Just one problem with parsers at the moment, with DOTs not registering int he combat log, and descrepencies that do arise between 2 people parsing the same fight using the same program we do not know how accurate they are without an official parser. We can only use them as a guide, not a 100% accurate assesment.

    Also the anti-parsers. It was through players using 3rd party parsers that they were able to spot the problems with certain jobs in performance which led to them recieving buffs. NIN, DRG for 2. Without 3rd party parsers those problems may not have been noticed.
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 08-02-2015 at 10:22 AM.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    They don't think, they are reaching for excuses to not put in a parser and run away before adequately defending the indefensible. They actually don't care about DPS at all which is convenient for them because their own DPS is rubbish and want to shut down any attempt to uncover this.
    I did a Sohm Al on my BRD yesterday in DF. Got paired with a BLM. Now I havn't used BRD since I switched to MNK after clearing First coil. Many, many updates ago :P So I'm mainly in 120 gear I grabbed with poetics when HW came out, mainly levelling BRD fro my retainer to level up, so 100% out of practice on it, just a bit from FATEs and Duck Vigil runs for XP. So was with this BLM, I had Foe Req up as much as I could for every pull. My DPS was more than double the BLMs, his rotation was fire 3 till empty, blizzard 3 till full then back to fire 3. When I gave him some tips about his rotation, was like talking to a brick wall, as he didnt change at all. With a parser he would have proof in his face that he was playing terrible.

    Or he would be whining on the forums that "BRD is OP, they do more than twice BLMs damage!" XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Or he would be whining on the forums that "BRD is OP, they do more than twice BLMs damage!" XD
    Probably this xD
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  4. #74
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    Daeya Star
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    These questions and threads about DPS wouldn't devolve in to a constant stream of complaints and arguments if people wouldn't act like complete assholes over it. Yes, there are people who will always "play how they want" and they'll always be terrible at their job because they refuse to change in a way that would make them more efficient. However, becoming overly offensive to them does absolutely nothing, and it will only make them grip on to their bad habits because that's pretty much human nature. So, if just jump all over someone right off the bat, they're going to ignore you. They probably even know your right, but you extended your hand with a clenched fist and they're going to disregard any kind of advice or help you try to give them.

    If it's really bothering you then vote to have them removed or leave the party. You don't have to hold their hand, but you also shouldn't try to break it.
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