Guess we will have raid with 6 tanks and 2xWHMs! XDAnd here it's finally revealed that tanks are actually the kings of DPS, closely followed by White Mages. Enmity = DPS, so it makes sense, right? It doesn't sound any more crazy than what you're proposing here. Several classes actually have skills that reduce enmity, which makes the enmity meter a very poor substitute for a DPS meter.
Not 6xWAR? WAR OP! ^_^
But super sereal :P A1 (S) will become a lot easier next week when the ilvl 200 weapons start to enter into the mix. As hardest part is pushing that DPS, mechanics are pretty simple to be fair. Was happy to get it cleared before next weeks reset.
I enjoy arguing semantics.
It gets peoples' panties in a bunch, which I find incredibly amusing. I mean, getting bent out of shape over semantics.
*giggles*


"ok guys we are hitting enrage but I can't see how that's possible since all our DPS are just trailing the full fending tank who is doing 300 DPS. We must have amazing DPS."



I was doing top DPS in a fight once, then I hit Shroud of Saints and it made my DPS plummet.And here it's finally revealed that tanks are actually the kings of DPS, closely followed by White Mages. Enmity = DPS, so it makes sense, right? It doesn't sound any more crazy than what you're proposing here. Several classes actually have skills that reduce enmity, which makes the enmity meter a very poor substitute for a DPS meter.![]()
FOR DOCKHAND!

Just once I'd like someone who says "just use the hate meter to judge DPS" who then gets put in their place by pointing out how the hate meter tells you nothing about DPS, to respond and see what they say. Like, I am legitimately interested in what they think about that. Not so I can tell them how wrong they are (I'll let everyone else do that) but because I want to know if that's ever been thought of in their head. When I HAVE to pop quelling as BLM and am subsequently lower on the hate meter for a bit, I wonder if they actually think I'm low DPS.
Or like someone else brought up, SMN. SMN are almost NEVER on top of the hate meter. Between their DPS being split between them and their pet, and their damage not necessarily being all up front like a lot of other jobs, they're just lower on the meter. Actually what makes that interesting is when you see a SMN ahead of a DPS like DRG for example. If the SMN is ahead of them on the hate meter and the DRG hasn't died or used elusive jump, you know that DRG is bad.
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They don't think, they are reaching for excuses to not put in a parser and run away before adequately defending the indefensible. They actually don't care about DPS at all which is convenient for them because their own DPS is rubbish and want to shut down any attempt to uncover this.Just once I'd like someone who says "just use the hate meter to judge DPS" who then gets put in their place by pointing out how the hate meter tells you nothing about DPS, to respond and see what they say. Like, I am legitimately interested in what they think about that. Not so I can tell them how wrong they are (I'll let everyone else do that) but because I want to know if that's ever been thought of in their head. When I HAVE to pop quelling as BLM and am subsequently lower on the hate meter for a bit, I wonder if they actually think I'm low DPS.
Pity for them parsing is widespread and no one is banned for it lol, I guess they sound bitter because they will never escape the fact that people will judge their performance.
The old 'aggro = DPS' thing is particularly bad on this fight, because there are 2 bosses and a bunch of adds to deal with... What use is comparing your aggro against other party members when you aren't even attacking the same thing?

Also skills like Quelling Strikes, Shadewalker and Smoke Screen affect enmity generation. Anyone who's making decisions on hate meter alone is very clueless.
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