Things I'm starting to hate on AST

[GideonHighmourn]

For some reason, I am suddenly reminded of the BRD DPS per second thread on Reddit when I see these random numbers being thrown around about how much AST cards are changing someone's DPS.

Good times!

I genuinely appreciate most of your math work, Ghishlain. I'm not particularly adept at serious mathematics, so I leave the sleuthing to those better at it than I; however, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that most of the numbers certain people have been claiming are just flat out made up and astronomically inaccurate.

[Vlady]

@Vlady
There's a difference between adequate and competitive. Being adequate at highest level of possible play in conjunction with good RNG is no excuse not to improve the job and bring it into competitive territory. Also, what gives? Seems like you have a chip on your shoulder. Has Square steered us overly wrong yet on balance? No matter the complaints in one direction or the other, things seem to end up where they belong (even if it takes a while). Warrior and Scholar both got their adjustments, and they're so much the better for it. Across the myriad threads on this subject you don't appear to be garnering any support for your particular views on the subject. If you disapprove of the player population who want to see the job improved, just walk away. That would certainly be simpler than throwing yourself at a brick wall and getting worked up over it.

Astrologian's are competitive. As I said I am not at fault if you do not want to play to the strength of the Astrologian buff when it comes to coordinating use of your dps enhancing cards with your group.

[VanEinstein]

Astrologian's are competitive. As I said I am not at fault if you do not want to play to the strength of the Astrologian buff when it comes to coordinating use of your dps enhancing cards with your group.

Where do you get this notion that this isn't already being done? No, I'm afraid you're wrong. It's objectively not even up for debate. They are not competitive. Have you familiarized yourself with the definition of the word? I'll save you some time: "As good as or better than others of a comparable nature."

If we're strictly speaking of bleeding edge content, there's a reason why the healing meta is what it is. An Astrologian cannot replace either a WHM or a SCH in the healing meta. While the job is designed to be a replacement for either, an AST must do one of the following two things to be a replacement in the meta:
A) Output enough healing to allow a SCH partner to stay in Cleric stance as often as when accompanied by a WHM, -OR-
B) Output as much dps as a SCH, while providing the same level of support as a fairy, and in an MP efficient manner

AST may do neither of these things. A White mage is uniquely suited to taking a great deal off the Scholars plate, whilst the Scholar is uniquely suited to providing DPS whilst simultaneously offering healing and support that is unaffected by Cleric stance. They complement each other perfectly. AST in no way compliments the other in such a fashion.

While you may still succeed with an AST, that does not make them competitive, and at present a great many Astrologians are sitting out because it's inefficient to take stuff to bleeding edge content that you cannot count on. Unless the odds of it performing at its peak with excellent luck results in a net gain head and shoulders above the odds of it performing at it's lowest, it's always going to be the worst possible choice, unless of course you muddy the argument with the players themselves.

[Ghishlain]

Good times!

I genuinely appreciate most of your math work, Ghishlain. I'm not particularly adept at serious mathematics, so I leave the sleuthing to those better at it than I; however, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that most of the numbers certain people have been claiming are just flat out made up and astronomically inaccurate.

Thank ya for the compliment~ Was gonna write a really long post about how "adding 400 DPS with card buffs is impossible" but it seems like everyone here got the point across about that.