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    Tila's Avatar
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    Tila Beauguerre
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BadRNG View Post
    Needing someone is an imbalance when you need someone just to be equal to someone who needs no one (try saying that ten times fast). What other jobs suffer from that? The disembowel argument is poor, because the only competition BRD/MCH have is each other. One is not better than the other without the DRG buff. It's going to be about the same.

    The complaint is that WAR is good at everything, bad at nothing, and needs no support to be good at what it is good at. If that is supposed to be class differences, you are basically saying being naturally superior is WAR's difference. Ideally differences should be what they bring to the group, not the basic aspects of the class being handicapped unless you bring another.

    I should also say again that I am fine with WAR being the best DPS tank, it's just that PLD/DRK should get something universal to make up for the fact that they lose that damage.
    Well DRK doesnt, their damage is fine in comparison even if their DPS rotation is boring as sin. At most I say that reprisal needs to be changed to be a simple cooldown based ability: essentially a limited time double storms path that you use when you need. I feel that'd keep it distinct enough from Warrior and Storms Path.

    PLD has the same issue as BRD had. They are partly a support, and a very safe class to play (like how BRD was the mobile dps with no real rotation) and pay for what they can do with something that isn't exactly wholly in the meta. The only way to fix Paladin is to redesign. If they get buffed with what they have they'll end up being over done. That's the real core of the PLD issue. The complaints aimed at them mirror the old BRD ones.

    The game can't be based around each class being a self contained bastion that doesn't need others. Some can be like that, but if they all are then we get to homogenization, and no one wants that. Its a class based game, many aspects will be based around having other classes.
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    Last edited by Tila; 08-01-2015 at 09:34 PM.

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    Krael Bastion
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tila View Post
    The game can't be based around each class being a self contained bastion that doesn't need others. Some can be like that, but if they all are then we get to homogenization, and no one wants that. Its a class based game, many aspects will be based around having other classes.
    Homogenization isn't necessarily evil, WAR is only as good as it is because they homogenized it massively with PLD in 2.1. Sometimes being unique doesn't work in the overall balance.

    I think NIN is perfect model to fix DRK/PLD. They do less damage than MNK/DRG but bring excellent utility. WAR actually manages to have it all right now; great mitigation, damage, and best tank utility.
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