So about the "warrior of darkness" [spoiler]

[Daralii]

Crackpot, bad story theory: the WoD is from another dimension, which is why the events of the HW trailer differ so dramatically from what's ingame. Ishgard falls, and the Ascians offer him and the other WoDs a means to save it. Merging that version of the world(Zodiark?) with Hydaelen is what the Rejoining is.

[Jonnycbad]

which is why the events of the HW trailer differ so dramatically from what's ingame. Ishgard falls

Those are not events that didn't happen. Those are events that *will* happen. The wyrm destroying Ishguard is Estinienogg in that trailer. Likely to unfold in 3.x.

[Jonnycbad]

We're probably born of the crystal which is why our past is mystified, but we do not consume aether, we do not destroy the land with our presence. Perhaps we have primal powers like Iceheart and the more people believe and pray and wish for us, the stronger we become because we've become a beacon of hope. 1000 years of praying and believing in salvation form Thordan's 12 allowed Thordan to become a man-god. Same could be said for us but on a different time scale. Our reputation as being larger than life quite literally makes us larger than life. Perhaps the elemental crystals we wield are conduits for power in the same vein as regular aether crystals that primals consume?

I never understood what those crystals actually are. In 2.0 they activate when we kill a primal or some other powerful being and usually the aligned element lights up (defeat Ifrit, Fire Crystal glows, etc). In 3.0 they glow kinda randomly. I don't know if these are some kind of protocrystals or anything though.

[Daralii]

Those are not events that didn't happen. Those are events that *will* happen. The wyrm destroying Ishguard is Estinienogg in that trailer. Likely to unfold in 3.x.

It looked like Hraesvelgar to me. Even if it's not him, it's definitely not Nidhogg unless he changes a lot after being reborn.

[Grayve]

It looked like Hraesvelgar to me. Even if it's not him, it's definitely not Nidhogg unless he changes a lot after being reborn.

They addressed this at... the interview with the head of the animation. Basically, they sent the wrong concept art to the movie team, and used Hraesvelgar in the trailer, instead of Nidhogg. It's a mistake, just like the Derplander leaving his axe behind in the ARR video. When they caught it, it was to late to change.

[Frederick22]

They addressed this at... the interview with the head of the animation. Basically, they sent the wrong concept art to the movie team, and used Hraesvelgar in the trailer, instead of Nidhogg. It's a mistake, just like the Derplander leaving his axe behind in the ARR video. When they caught it, it was to late to change.

You sure? I mean, how could they made such a big mistake? ( heads will role for sure )
I dont really think that the events of the movie trail will happen at all, Lorolito is not a kind evil leader, that have full power over uldah, Rauban is not on prission anymore. Hraesvelgar didnt atacked us on the steps of faith. also we will not face a full army of lots of Hraesvelgars

[Anonymoose]

Not really in reply to anything, just musing and writing it down before I forget...

Lahabrea said it's been a long time since he's seen a Warrior of Light (one person with the blessing, thus all of the crystals). I wonder if the twelve Archons and twelve Zodiac braves are just different ways of approaching the Era imbalance, where one crystal is given to each of a large group. To a layman, wouldn't that look a group acting as physical vessels for incarnations of the gods themselves? What if, for instance, Ahldbhar (a great Roegadyn mage said to be The Destroyer himself on the battlefield to such a degree that statues of Rhalgr are made in his likeness) was simply a bearer of a Lightning Crystal of Light?

Though, with twelve it implies that either there's two for each, or the Warriors of Light fought with the Warriors of Darkness (six astral gods, six umbral gods). Perhaps that's where Elidibus differs from the other Ascians - his plans account for this as opposed to, "Darkness will consume all! All will become nothingness!" etc. etc.

But for reasons that we'd agree with? (Desiring the rise of Zodiark so that he can actually be slain.) Or is he the classic Final Fantasy figure that seems logical and calculating in their level playing of both sides, but truly becomes an ultimate antagonist?

</scratches head> Ehhh, probably gonna need to think this through better, lol.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Not really in reply to anything, just musing and writing it down before I forget...

Lahabrea said it's been a long time since he's seen a Warrior of Light (one person with the blessing, thus all of the crystals). I wonder if the twelve Archons and twelve Zodiac braves are just different ways of approaching the Era imbalance, where one crystal is given to each of a large group. To a layman, wouldn't that look a group acting as physical vessels for incarnations of the gods themselves? What if, for instance, Ahldbhar (a great Roegadyn mage said to be The Destroyer himself on the battlefield to such a degree that statues of Rhalgr are made in his likeness) was simply a bearer of a Lightning Crystal of Light?

Though, with twelve it implies that either there's two for each, or the Warriors of Light fought with the Warriors of Darkness (six astral gods, six umbral gods). Perhaps that's where Elidibus differs from the other Ascians - his plans account for this as opposed to, "Darkness will consume all! All will become nothingness!" etc. etc.

But for reasons that we'd agree with? (Desiring the rise of Zodiark so that he can actually be slain.) Or is he the classic Final Fantasy figure that seems logical and calculating in their level playing of both sides, but truly becomes an ultimate antagonist?

</scratches head> Ehhh, probably gonna need to think this through better, lol.

Thanks a lot Moose Sensei. Now you've got me looking for my Darksteel Foil Hat on this one. >_>

One day one of the people on this forum will find the truth on the Twelve and The Planet Crystals and then all of this can finally be put to rest. Till then <Dons Darksteel Foil Thinking Hat> TO THE DRAWING BOARD!!!

[MilesSaintboroguh]

You sure? I mean, how could they made such a big mistake?

I believe the team was pressed for time to get the trailer for Heavensward out and by the time the mistake was caught, they said screw it and went ahead with what they had since redoing the entire thing would be very expensive.

[PArcher]

We have seen two Crystals of Ice at this point (what else could the crystal Iceheart had at her end be? A "normal" crystal of that size couldn't possibly summon a Primal, and she had the Echo and knew the Mothercrystal's voice), though I would expect the Warrior of Darkness to have aspected Crystals of Darkness instead of aspected Crystals of Light.