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    Guaranteed 8/8 Ephermeral Node?

    Hello! I am actually working on the new legendary material requiring glamour gear that was just released, as I think it looks awesome! So having said this: they require Seaborne and Leafborne Aethersand.

    Is there any way to very reliably get 500+ potency in the 3-4 hit limit to get 8/8? It's not a 6 strike node like Adamantite and other collectables, it shorter and thus harder to push the numbers so high.

    Any suggestions?
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    It is actually rather simple with how ephemeral nodes respawn themselves.

    Step 1: Find a node, Does it have one of the higher lvl hidden mats? if not mine it normally and respawn a new one.

    Step 2: So it has a higher level hidden. Super. Hit it with impulsive Appraisal. Did it proc? if not mine it normally and respawn a new one.

    Step 3: So you got a good one with a proc. Time to Single Mind/ Methodical, Utmost Caution Methodical, Utmost Caution Methodical

    This gives you 30 wear, >500 rarity, and uses only 3 hits.
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    It's that easy?
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    Rotation I did for getting some leaf/landborne aethersands:

    Discerning Eye / Utmost Caution / Instinctual Appraisal
    did you get 230+ from that hit?
    If not, repeat Discerning Eye / Utmost Caution / Instinctual Appraisal
    If you did, might just use Discerning / Methodical Appraisal

    hopefully you now have somewhere near 411+ collectability from both hits.

    Methodical appraise now (or Utmost caution + Instinctual if you have the GP), should get you to around 526+ collectability which is enough for land/leaf borne aethersands.

    It relies on RNG, and Instinctual can be very troll sometimes, giving you less than a methodical, TWICE in the same attempt.
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    Last edited by aerolol; 08-01-2015 at 05:16 AM.

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    I will write out my thought process of the rotation I've been using so people can try to make any improvements if they see one. First off, I did not want to bother with the range of rarity that Instinctual Appraisal gives, so I based my rotation around using only Impulsive and Methodical. Second, when using those two appraisals, I need to include a Single Mind once due to having to appraisal 4 times and also include 2 Utmost Caution to avoid getting too much wear. Lastly, the rotation depends on having 600 gp, and the needed perception for max rarity on level 60, in order for Impulsive Appraisal to hit for 103, and Discerning Eye + Methodical Appraisal to hit for 172. Which is critical, since 103+103+172+172 exactly equals 550. The rotation involves fishing for Impulsive Appraisal procs for at least one discerning eye over two attempts.

    Rotation goes:
    If first Impulsive Appraisal procs -> SM/UC/Methodical on 2nd step, followed by another Impulsive Appraisal. If it procs, the last step should be SM/UC/Methodical, but if it doesn't it should be DE/UC/Methodical. There's a chance to gather two if both impulsive appraisal on the first and third steps proc, but most of the time you'll just get one.

    If first Impulsive Appraisal doesn't proc, but the 2nd one does -> SM/UC/Methodical on third step, DE/UC/Methodical on the last step. No opportunity to fish for more procs, only able to gather one.

    If both Impulsive Appraisal does not proc, either collect 2 items at 1/8 purity or collect 1 item at 2/8 purity depending on your crystal and cluster needs. No wasted GP though, so just cycle through the nodes to spawn ephemeral again.

    TL;DR where Imp(y) means it procced and Imp(n) means it did not proc:
    Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth -> Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth (2 gathers)
    Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth -> Imp(n) -> DE/UC/Meth
    Imp(n) -> Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth -> DE/UC/Meth
    Imp(n) -> Imp(n) -> Failed, abort and try again. No wasted GP
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    Last edited by Nusy; 08-01-2015 at 07:29 AM.

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    I'll just try them all a lot and see which gives best results. I'm working toward the new ilvl 180 crafted items for sweet sweet glamour.
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    Good luck...

    The aethersand is probably the easiest thing to get for those new lv180 crafts...
    The crap gated behind red scrips that is the real issue.
    #FF14RNGfetish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nusy View Post
    TL;DR where Imp(y) means it procced and Imp(n) means it did not proc:
    Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth -> Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth (2 gathers)
    Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth -> Imp(n) -> DE/UC/Meth
    Imp(n) -> Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth -> SM/UC/Meth
    Imp(n) -> Imp(n) -> Failed, abort and try again. No wasted GP
    The 3rd line should be:
    Imp(n) -> Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth -> DE/UC/Meth like you explained it in the text .

    I used almost the same method but didnt have the idea to use Imp in the 3rd step again to get a chance for 2 gathers, even though i knew you can use Imp twice in case the first one fails. It should have been obvious... sometimes you think you found the best way but there is still something to improve. Thanks for this ^^.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    It's that easy?
    Its that easy. The benefit with going the way i put forward, is you use NO GP until you know it is a win. This keeps you from having to wait on gp which can really cut into the number of times you can roll the dice on getting a hidden + proc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexiell View Post
    The 3rd line should be:
    Imp(n) -> Imp(y) -> SM/UC/Meth -> DE/UC/Meth like you explained it in the text .

    I used almost the same method but didnt have the idea to use Imp in the 3rd step again to get a chance for 2 gathers, even though i knew you can use Imp twice in case the first one fails. It should have been obvious... sometimes you think you found the best way but there is still something to improve. Thanks for this ^^.
    Edited, thanks for the catch!
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